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Topic: Prüfer rings are coherent


view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (Feb 12 2024 at 19:02):

I'm interested in Prüfer rings i.e. commutative rings such that every nonzero finitely-generated fractional ideal is invertible.

It is claimed here that Prüfer rings are coherent and that the definition of coherent ring implies that the intersection of any two finitely-generated ideals of a coherent ring is finitely generated (here, they even claim that the notion of coherent ring is equivalent to this condition).

Finally, whatever is or how should be defined a coherent ring, I'm only looking for a proof of this precisely defined proposition: "the intersection of two finitely-generated ideals of a Prüfer ring is finitely-generated".

Does anyone know about this?

(I'm interested in this because it seems that the (opposite) of the lattice of nonzero finitely-generated fractional ideals of any Prüfer semiring is a perfect model of some sequent calculus for arithmetic that I'm working on. This fact looks very important in this topic.)

view this post on Zulip Todd Trimble (Feb 12 2024 at 22:52):

Here's a sketch: invertible modules are projective, and finitely generated projective modules PP over a commutative ring RR are finitely related (there's a surjection RnPR^n \to P whose kernel KK is finitely generated; that's clear because you can split any exact sequence 0KRnP00 \to K \to R^n \to P \to 0, and then RnR^n surjects onto KK). Thus, in a Prüfer domain, finitely generated ideals are finitely related.

Then refer to Theorem 2.2 here, page 6 of 17, particularly the implication (a) => (c) where this gives that if every finitely generated ideal is finitely related, then the intersection of any two finitely generated ideals is also finitely generated.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (Feb 12 2024 at 23:03):

Thank you very much @Todd Trimble !

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (Feb 12 2024 at 23:10):

I'm still not sure if what I call a Prüfer ring must be called a Prüfer ring. I was just reading two minutes ago that there are several nonequivalent extensions of the notion of Prüfer domain to rings with zero divisors. But you made a lot of work for me by giving a sketch of why Prüfer domains verify the intersection property. That's some good progress :)

view this post on Zulip Todd Trimble (Feb 12 2024 at 23:16):

Well, I'm not at all versed in all this. But that theorem I pointed to seems to contain answers to the other questions you ask, to the effect that a ring is coherent iff the intersection of any two finitely generated ideals is again finitely generated.

view this post on Zulip Todd Trimble (Feb 12 2024 at 23:19):

Interestingly @Morgan Rogers (he/him) was also asking about related things some years back, here. It was through a comment under his question that I was alerted to the paper by Stephen Chase that I linked to.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (Feb 12 2024 at 23:47):

I saw also that Morgan asked similar questions on Math StackExchange ahah. People are interested by the good stuff for different reasons ahah.