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Stream: deprecated: id my structure

Topic: Locally monoidal bicategory


view this post on Zulip Dylan Braithwaite (Feb 23 2023 at 13:10):

Is there a name for bicategories whose hom-categories have monoidal structures but where this does not extend to the objects? My motivating example is Prof\mathbf{Prof} (actually the subcategory of it spanned by monoidal categories) where the hom categories have monoidal products given by Day convolution, but I don’t think it makes much sense to extend this to profunctors defined on different pairs of categories.

view this post on Zulip Dylan Braithwaite (Feb 23 2023 at 14:29):

I suppose it’s incorrect to talk about restricting Prof\mathbf{Prof} to monoidal categories when that’s extra structure. Really I mean a version of Prof\mathbf{Prof} whose objects are monoidal categories, but this starts to feel a bit evil because we have to distinguish objects by extra structure on them but this structure doesn’t appear in the 1-cells. This is my reason for this question: is there a good way to study this local monoidal structure more globally?

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (Feb 23 2023 at 15:01):

Explicitly, given monoidal categories A and B, you are interested in the fact that Prof(A, B) ≃ Psh(B x A°) is monoidal, using Day convolution on the monoidal structure of the product category?

view this post on Zulip Dylan Braithwaite (Feb 23 2023 at 15:17):

Yeah exactly. I think I’ve kind of rubber-ducked my way into thinking the original structure I was looking for doesn’t make much sense. But I’m still interesting in whether there’s a way to study this local monoidal structure more globally

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (Feb 23 2023 at 15:29):

This situation seems to be quite specific to Prof. It makes use of the fact that presheaves are given by exponentiation, i.e. that Cat(A, PB) ≃ Cat(1, P(B x A°)), which isn't a relationship one would expect to hold very often. Unless you have some other similar examples, I don't see any phenomenon of which this is a particular example. Maybe others do, though.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Feb 23 2023 at 20:31):

The obvious answer is "a bicategory enriched over monoidal categories". But the 2-category of monoidal categories isn't, I think, monoidal in a very useful way to enrich over. The 2-category of symmetric monoidal categories is (it has a tensor product that categorifies the tensor product of abelian monoids). But I haven't thought about whether composition of profunctors is a map in this category with respect to the Day convolution monoidal structures for profunctors between symmetric monoidal categories.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Feb 23 2023 at 20:32):

If you just wanted a way to incorporate monoidal structures on objects into Prof, you could look at Prof as a double category, and take the tight morphisms to be monoidal functors.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Feb 23 2023 at 20:33):

Or you could note that a monoidal category is both a monoid and a comonoid in Prof, and restrict to considering only profunctors that are monoid and/or comonoid homomorphisms.