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Topic: Coalgebras for non-operadic monads


view this post on Zulip Alexander Gietelink Oldenziel (Dec 20 2020 at 17:09):

Given an operad O(n)O(n) in a sym. mon. closed category CC we can study their algebras, given by operad morphisms O(n)End(X)(n)O(n) \to End(X)(n) for $$X\in $C$$. Here End(X)(n)End(X)(n) is the operad Hom(Xn,X)Hom(X^n, X).
A fundamental theorem states that O(n)O(n) has an associated monad MM such that the algebras coincide: Alg(M)=Alg(O(n))Alg(M)=Alg(O(n)).

One apparent benefit of looking at operads instead of the induced monad is that we can also study coalgebras over the operad O(n)O(n).
These are given by operad morphisms O(n)CoEnd(X)(n)O(n) \to CoEnd(X)(n) given by Hom(X,Xn)Hom(X, X^n).
[do not confuse the coalgebras of O(n)O(n) with the coalgebras of the opposite cooperad in the opposite category O(n)opCopO(n)^{op} \in C^{op}. These are different!]

My question is whether there is a sensible notion of coalgebra for (more) general non-operadic monads MM?

[My monad MM is probably monoidal, and also has algebra maps m:M(X)M(X)M(X),e:IM(X)m:M(X) \otimes M(X) \to M(X), e: I \to M(X). ]

[Certainly, we can look at the underlying endofunctor of MM and consider coalgebras for that functor. However, I don't think this recovers the right notion of coalgebra. Indeed, for the symmetric algebra monad SymSym on VectkVect_k this gives coalgebras which don't neccesarily satisfy any of the coalgebra laws like coassociativity]

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Dec 20 2020 at 18:06):

Alexander Gietelink Oldenziel said:

Given an operad O(n)O(n) in a sym. mon. closed category CC we can study their algebras, given by operad morphisms O(n)End(X)(n)O(n) \to End(X)(n) for XCX\in C. Here End(X)(n)End(X)(n) is the operad Hom(Xn,X)Hom(X^n, X).

A fundamental theorem states that O(n)O(n) has an associated monad MM such that the algebras coincide: Alg(M)=Alg(O(n))Alg(M)=Alg(O(n)).

Don't you need some extra condition, like CC being cocomplete, for this to work?

Say C=FinSetC = \mathsf{FinSet} is the category of finite sets with its ×\times monoidal structure. Then I think there's an operad OO whose algebras are monoids in FinSet\mathsf{FinSet} - that is, finite monoids. But I don't think there's a "free finite monoid" on a finite set, so I don't think there's a monad M:FinSetFinSetM : \mathsf{FinSet} \to \mathsf{FinSet} whose algebras are finite monoids.

By the way, I'd really like to know a reference for this "fundamental theorem".

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Dec 20 2020 at 18:14):

I know Todd Trimble has proved something similar:

See Theorem 1.3. I needed this result in my work... that's why I'm interested in references!