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Topic: Azumaya algebras


view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 20:53):

Yes, I'm the guy asking a lot of annoying ring theory questions on the category theory community server! :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 20:53):

But I want this stuff to become category theory.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 20:56):

So, there are two apparently equivalent definitions of an [[Azumaya algebra]] AA over a commutative ring RR:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 20:57):

The first definition is conceptually nice because there's a monoidal bicategory of

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 20:57):

where the monoidal structure comes from tensor product of algebras over RR.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 21:00):

Then the first definition is saying the object AA is Azumaya iff it's invertible: there's a BB such that BAIB \otimes A \simeq I in this monoidal bicategory.

(I believe this implies ABIA \otimes B \simeq I, but I don't see why. I'd better check: if it doesn't, then there's a paper out there giving a bad definition of Azumaya algebra!)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 21:02):

The second definition sounds less categorical, but actually a separable algebra is one where the multiplication ARAAA \otimes_R A \to A has a section (that is, a right inverse) in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 21:04):

And this is very nice! First, it makes sense very generally: for any monoid object AA in any monoidal category, we can say it's separable if its multiplication has right inverse in the category of A,AA,A-biactions. Second, this right inverse makes AA into a [[Frobenius monoid]].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 21:05):

Proving this is easy and fun with string diagrams.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 21:06):

So, my question is whether there's an elegant proof that the two definitions of Azumaya algebra agree... a proof that might be generalized to other contexts.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 21:46):

John Baez said:

The second definition sounds less categorical, but actually a separable algebra is one where the multiplication AAAA \otimes A \to A has a section (that is, a right inverse) in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules.

That's probably a very dumb question, but why isn't the map AAAA \rightarrow A \otimes A defined by x1xx \mapsto 1 \otimes x always a section of the multiplication AAAA \otimes A \rightarrow A?

view this post on Zulip Reid Barton (May 26 2023 at 21:56):

I think because it is not a map of A,A-bimodules. It sends axax to 1ax1 \otimes ax, and not axa \otimes x.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:16):

I think I was mistaken by the fact that AA:=ARAA \otimes A := A \otimes_{R} A and not AAAA \otimes_{A} A so that if a∉ra \not\in r indeed 1ax(1a)x=ax1 \otimes ax \neq (1a) \otimes x = a \otimes x.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 22:30):

Yes, when I wrote AAA \otimes A I meant ARAA \otimes_R A. And yes, x1xx \mapsto 1 \otimes x is not a map of A,AA,A bimodules.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:32):

I see what you meant, I felt funny as well

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 22:33):

I decided to delete that "feel funny" business. I don't feel funny anymore. :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 22:35):

Say AA is the algebra of n×nn \times n matrices with entries in RR. Let eijAe_{i j} \in A be the elementary matrices. Then here's a map AARAA \mapsto A \otimes_R A that's a right inverse for multiplication:

eij1nk=1neikekj e_{ij} \mapsto \frac{1}{n} \sum_{k=1}^n e_{ik} \otimes e_{kj}

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 22:35):

But notice, this only works if we can divide by nn in RR.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 22:36):

So it turns out, for example, that the algebra of n×nn \times n matrices with entries in a field of characteristic pp is separable iff nn is not divisible by pp.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:37):

Thanks, nice example!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 22:39):

Similarly the group algebra k[G]k[G] of a finite group is separable iff the order of the group GG is not divisible by the characteristic of the field kk. Nasty things happen when the order of the group is divisible by the characteristic of the field... and that's why nobody knows all the irreducible representations of symmetric groups SnS_n over finite fields.

This is a shocking hole in our knowledge, and if climate change weren't a problem and I was king of the Earth I would declare it an emergency. :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:45):

Is a section given by g1GhGh(h1g)g \mapsto \frac{1}{|G|}\underset{h \in G}{\sum} h \otimes (h^{-1}g)?

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:49):

I'm still not sure if it's a map of k[G],k[G]k[G],k[G]-bimodule...

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:49):

I'm not used at all to bimodules

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:52):

No, it doesn't work.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:53):

A variant of this should work I guess.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 22:59):

I guess, it's more complicated than that and maybe you use the fact that a kk-linear representation of GG is the same than a k[G]k[G]-module ?

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:04):

Ok, I saw the answer on Wikipedia, and I was very close so a section is
g1GhG(gh)h1g \mapsto \frac{1}{|G|}\underset{h \in G}{\sum}(gh)\otimes h^{-1}

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:10):

Funny that it provides a Frobenius monoid, so k[G]k[G] is at the same time a Hopf algebra and a Frobenius algebra...

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:19):

I'm wondering if there is a class of finite dimensional hopf algebras bigger than such groups algebras which are separable as well because you can define ghH(gh)S(h)g \mapsto \underset{h \in H}{\sum}(gh)\otimes S(h) for every Hopf algebra HH with antipode SS, now I don't know by what I should replace G|G|.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 23:39):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

Ok, I saw the answer on Wikipedia, and I was very close so a section is
g1GhG(gh)h1g \mapsto \frac{1}{|G|}\underset{h \in G}{\sum}(gh)\otimes h^{-1}

You were not merely close! Your answer

g1GhGh(h1g)g \mapsto \frac{1}{|G|}\underset{h \in G}{\sum} h \otimes (h^{-1}g)

is equal to Wikipedia's, and frankly I like your way of writing it better.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 23:39):

I like this way even better:

g1Gh,kG s.t. hk=ghk g \mapsto \frac{1}{|G|} \underset{h, k \in G \text{ s.t. } hk = g}{\sum} h \otimes k

since it doesn't involve arbitrarily choosing a trick for summing over all pairs h,kh,k that multiply to give gg.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:40):

I thought to that at first but I wasn't sure that there are G|G| elements in the sum, so I wrote it in the other way

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:43):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

Is a section given by g1GhGh(h1g)g \mapsto \frac{1}{|G|}\underset{h \in G}{\sum} h \otimes (h^{-1}g)?

But this way makes me think that it is maybe a natural map k[G]k[G]k[G]k[G] \rightarrow k[G] \otimes k[G]

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:44):

If I define k[f]:k[G]k[H]k[f]:k[G] \rightarrow k[H] for a group morphism f:GHf:G \rightarrow H

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 23:46):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

Funny that it provides a Frobenius monoid, so k[G]k[G] is at the same time a Hopf algebra and a Frobenius algebra...

I love this fact! They have the same multiplication but different comultiplications. I keep wanting to study this more. I should read this:

Theorem 4.15 says any finite-dimensional Hopf algebra admits a Frobenius algebra structure with the same multiplication. But apparently not every (finite-dimensional) Frobenius algebra has a Hopf algebra structure with the same multiplication.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:55):

Oh, now I think that this comultiplication is g1dim(H)hB(gh)S(h)g \mapsto \frac{1}{dim(H)}\underset{h \in B}{\sum}(gh)\otimes S(h) for BB a basis of HH

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:55):

if HH is a finite-dimensional hopf algebra such that dim(H)dim(H) doesn't divide the characteristic of kk

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:56):

That would be even better if this this paper was written for Hopf monoids

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:57):

So we should define what is a finite-dimensional Hopf monoid in a symmetric monoidal category

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:58):

and there are good chances that most of the paper will still work

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 23:58):

If HH is an arbitrary Hopf algebra you should be summing over a basis, right? I'm not sure your formula is right in general, but it's definitely right for group algebras.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 26 2023 at 23:58):

Oh yes, you're right

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 26 2023 at 23:59):

You can define a finite-dimensional object in a symmetric monoidal category to be one that is a [[dualizable object]] - that works pretty well.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 00:04):

Ok, nice, we should try to see if some facts work for dualizable hopf monoids in a symmetric monoidal kk-linear category so

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 00:05):

By the way, I fear that business of summing over a basis of the Hopf algebra is not the correct way to define a Frobenius comultiplication on a finite-dimensional Hopf algebra. There's a theory of "integrals" for Hopf algebras, and I think you need to choose an integral for your Hopf algebra to make it into a Frobenius algebra. That's what that paper explains.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 00:09):

Ok, the crux to obtain the Frobenius algebra structure seems to be their fundamental theorem of Hopf modules.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 00:10):

(Theorem 4.13)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 00:11):

Nice.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 00:36):

So, back to my original question. For any RR-algebra AA, the following are equivalent:

1) there's an algebra BB such that BRAB \otimes_R A is Morita equivalent to RR

2) AA is separable and its center is RR?

But what's the slickest proof? Can we find a proof that uses just string diagrams or other category-theoretic machinery?

To do this we should try to work in the symmetric monoidal bicategory Mod(R)\mathbf{Mod}(R) of

as much as possible, since that may let us generalize to other (sufficiently nice) symmetric monoidal bicategories.

Condition 1) is clearly phrased in terms of this monoidal bicategory Mod(R)\mathbf{Mod}(R): it's just saying that our object AA has an object BB that's a "tensor inverse" of AA.

For condition 2), "separability" is nicely phrased in terms of this bicategory: it's saying that multiplication ARAAA \otimes_R A \to A, viewed as homomorphism of A,AA,A-bimodules, has a right inverse! But what about this business of the center of AA being RR? That sounds hard to express abstractly.

But then I remembered: any separable algebra is a Frobenius algebra! And for any Frobenius algebra AA (over a field RR, at least) there's a god-given way to project it down to its center! We comultiply AARAA \to A \otimes_R A, then use the symmetry to "switch" ARAARA A \otimes_R A \to A \otimes_R A, and then multiply ARAAA \otimes_R A \to A. This gives an idempotent p:AAp: A \to A that projects AA down to its center. I showed why this works on page 84 here.

So, I think there's a nice way to say the center of AA is just RR when AA is separable. We say this map p:AAp: A \to A equals the counit ϵ:AR\epsilon: A \to R followed by the unit ι:RA\iota : R \to A.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 00:39):

So now conditions 1) and 2) are things I can say in any symmetric monoidal bicategory, and I can try to show they're equivalent... or at least show one implication, perhaps.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 00:41):

In 1) the condition that AA have a tensor inverse is a bit annoying because it has an existential quantifier. But in fact the tensor inverse, when it exists, is always AopA^{\text{op}}. That could help.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 01:13):

Remark: in 2) the condition of separability has also an existential quantifier. So I guess that we could maybe go from BB to the section AARAA \rightarrow A \otimes_{R} A and vice-versa.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 01:55):

That's true. Actually the reason I usually think of "separable algebras" as not having an existential quantifier is that I usually think of the section AARAA \to A \otimes_R A as part of the structure of a separable algebra, just as I think of the comultiplication as part of the structure of a Frobenius algebra. (And indeed, every separable algebra equipped with a specific section gives a Frobenius algebra with a specific comultiplication!)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 01:58):

But over in condition 1), I am acting like there's no extra structure required. So something is funny. Maybe the point is that instead of simply saying AopA^{\text{op}} is a tensor inverse of AA, I should be specifying a specific invertible bimodule from RR to AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 01:59):

And that's nice because it smells a lot like the section AARAA \to A \otimes_R A.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 02:01):

So I/we should start calculating and see if I/we can get from condition 1), thus reformulated, to condition 2). Or vice versa. Going from 2) to 1) seems a bit easier.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 02:03):

(I'm willing to work with anyone on this as long as they don't expect me to write a paper with them. It's so tiring to write papers with other people that by now I'd rather just stick their name on the paper and do all the writing myself, or not write a paper at all and let them do whatever they want.)

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:13):

I'm a bit lost about the nature of the morphisms. The section AARAA \rightarrow A \otimes_{R} A is a morphism of (R,R)(R,R)-bimodule, right? but now you say that AAopRA \otimes A^{op} \cong R is a (R,R)(R,R)-bimodule.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:15):

John Baez said:

I should be specifying a specific invertible bimodule from RR to AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}}.

I don't understand this phrase.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:18):

Maybe you wanted to say "a specific invertible bimodule morphism".

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:20):

If it's the case, that's exactly what I wanted to suggest too.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:21):

Is there a canonical way to build this morphism?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 02:21):

Maybe you wanted to say "a specific invertible bimodule morphism".

No, I meant what I said. It's confusing but in definition 1) we are working in the monoidal bicategory of

so there, when I say AopA^{\text{op}} is a weak inverse to AA, I mean that there's a bimodule from the algebra RR to the algebra AopRAA^{\text{op}} \otimes_R A, which is an equivalence in this bicategory.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 02:22):

Note that bimodules are the 1-morphisms in this bicategory!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 02:23):

If what I'm saying sounds mysterious, it probably pays to read a little about [[Morita equivalence]].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 02:24):

But I see the nLab starts by explaining Morita equivalence for rings, while I'm using it for RR-algebras! So that's another way to get confused. :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:26):

Yes, in fact if I understand two RR-algebras AA and BB are Morita equivalent if there is an equivalence ARBRA \otimes_{R} B \cong R in our bicategory, is it right? and I don't want to read more and be confused.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:28):

Now, I guess that the definition of an equivalence in a bicategory is obtained by generalizing the equivalence of categories in the bicategory CatCat in terms of objects, 1-morphisms and 2-morphisms in any bicategory?

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 02:45):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

Yes, in fact if I understand two RR-algebras AA and BB are Morita equivalent if there is an equivalence ARBRA \otimes_{R} B \cong R in our bicategory, is it right? and I don't want to read more and be confused.

About reading, I mean that most of the time it is incredibly more efficient when someone explains you shortly what you want to know in the terms you want to use rather than getting confused by 10 equivalent definitions that are not formulated in the language you prefer. That's not that I'm too lazy to read.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 04:21):

John Baez said:

(I'm willing to work with anyone on this as long as they don't expect me to write a paper with them. It's so tiring to write papers with other people that by now I'd rather just stick their name on the paper and do all the writing myself, or not write a paper at all and let them do whatever they want.)

I don't know a lot about ring and modules, and I enjoy more writing stuff alone too because that's the only way I can understand some subject. So if you think to me, I would be happy to prove a categorical version of this equivalence, if you had enough energy to answer my questions. That would be a very nice way for me to get my hands on more pure math stuff. Now, I still don't have enough information to do this work. I don't know how to define the section 2) from equivalence 1) and how to define the equivalence 1) from the section 2).

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 04:22):

Maybe if you knew a reference where this equivalence is proved in the classical case of rings, I could understand how to do it by reading.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 04:25):

I think people have a hard time working with me or supervising me because I always want to have my own catch on the stuff.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 04:29):

I just try to get as much information from people to learn faster :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes: and after I want to use it by myself

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 04:36):

Well, I think you wanted somebody to help you and not help somebody and lose a lot of time with that :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 04:41):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

Yes, in fact if I understand two RR-algebras AA and BB are Morita equivalent if there is an equivalence ARBRA \otimes_{R} B \cong R in our bicategory, is it right? and I don't want to read more and be confused.

Yes. But like lots of people doing bicategories or 2-categories I use \sim to indicate the existence of a 1-morphism that's an equivalence, and \cong to indicate the existence of a 2-morphism that's an isomorphism.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 04:42):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

Now, I guess that the definition of an equivalence in a bicategory is obtained by generalizing the equivalence of categories in the bicategory CatCat in terms of objects, 1-morphisms and 2-morphisms in any bicategory?

Right.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 04:44):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

About reading, I mean that most of the time it is incredibly more efficient when someone explains you shortly what you want to know in the terms you want to use rather than getting confused by 10 equivalent definitions that are not formulated in the language you prefer.

More efficient for you, sometimes less efficient for the person who has to explain it.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 04:46):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

Now, I still don't have enough information to do this work. I don't know how to define the section 2) from equivalence 1) and how to define the equivalence 1) from the section 2).

The problem is precisely to figure out those things - if it's possible at all. If I knew those things I wouldn't need help.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 05:02):

Ahah okay, but it is maybe in papers (for the classical case). I've found one of them when this equivalence is written saying it's a classical result but it doesn't give the proof. It says to look at the bibliography of one of the reference. For the moment, I still haven't found the proof but it may be doable.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 05:03):

Azumaya categories theorem 1.2 is your equivalence

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 05:03):

(for commutative rings)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 05:34):

Okay, thanks. I'd probably like to spend at least a few hours trying to figure it out myself before looking at this.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 05:48):

There isn't a proof just the proposition.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 05:49):

There is a proof of something which looks similar in the book "Théorie de la descente et Algèbres d'Azumaya", Théorème 5.1. p.93

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 05:56):

They prove that 1') "There exists a RR-algebra B and a faithfully projective RR-module PP such that ARBEndR(P) A \otimes_{R} B \cong End_{R}(P) as RR-algebras." is equivalent to 2) "AA is separable and its center is RR."

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 05:57):

I guess that 1') should be equivalent to 1) if you know a bit how to manipulate bimodules.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 06:39):

Just to save it for myself: they say that 1') is equivalent to 1) in Lemme 7.1 p.26 and refer to H. Bass, Algebraic K-theory, 1968 for a proof.

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (May 27 2023 at 11:06):

@John Baez: have you looked at Borceux–Vitale's Azumaya Categories? My impression is that they give the kind of general categorical proof you are looking for (see Theorem 3.4).

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (May 27 2023 at 11:08):

Oh, I see now that Jean-Baptiste also mentioned this paper.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:31):

I have looked at it, but I looked at it again 10 minutes ago (before reading you comment!) and noticed that it says this:

Starting from the seventies, several categorical approaches to Azumaya algebras and the Brauer group have been proposed (see the bibliography in [23] for some references). Almost all these approaches deal with Azumaya monoids in a monoidal category V. If one confines one's attention to monoids (i.e. one-object V-categories), the basic results needed to develop the Azumaya-Brauer theory are quite simple: they reduce essentially to Morita theory in monoidal categories. Consequently, the conditions on V can be weaker than those assumed in our paper. For example, in the classical paper by Pareigis [20], the closedness of V is weakened, and in some recent papers by Van Oystaeyen and Zhang (see [22]) and by Alonso Alvarez et al. (see [1]), V is braided but not necessarily symmetric; however, some completeness and biclosedness requirements are needed on V.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:32):

So I looked at [23]:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:42):

On the top of page 4 this lists four equivalent definitions of an Azumaya algebra in classic case of RR-algebras, including the two I'm interested in, and threatens to generalize these to "Azumaya monoids" in a pretty general symmetric monoidal category. So that's what I want!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:43):

So, I just need to figure out what they're doing.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:47):

They use very weak assumptions: they're looking at monoids in a symmetric monoidal category with coequalizers that are preserved by tensor products.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 16:50):

Note than in definition 3.1, c) they define a a splitting monoid as a (non-unital) monoid AA which have a section AAAAA \rightarrow A \otimes_{A} A of the "canonical map" AAAAA \otimes_{A} A \rightarrow A and such that this section and multiplication verify the comultiplication/multiplication diagram of a Frobenius monoid.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 16:51):

I'm a little bit confused by the fact that they use the tensor product A\otimes_{A} and I'm not sure what is this canonical map.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 16:52):

I'm not even sure what A\otimes_{A} means in a general monoidal category.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:53):

This is why they need the coequalizers that I mentioned!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:55):

If AA is a monoid in a monoidal category C\mathsf{C} with coequalizers, and AA acts on the right on XX and AA acts on the right on YY, you can define a thing XAYX \otimes_A Y using a coequalizer, copying the usual construction when C=Ab\mathsf{C} = \mathsf{Ab}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 16:56):

Namely, you form the two obvious morphisms XAYXYX \otimes A \otimes Y \to X \otimes Y and you coequalize them.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 16:58):

Ok, and AA acts on the right on XX means that you have a morphism XAXX \otimes A \rightarrow X which verifies the same diagrams than for a set XX which would act on a monoid AA, right?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:02):

Yes, exactly.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:06):

So in a symmetric monoidal category C\mathsf{C} with equalizers preserved by taking tensor products with objects, we can talk about:

and finally the monoidal bicategory of

This is a pretty general context for Azumaya--Brauer--Morita theory.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 17:09):

Nice, I think I understand how to define this stuff! Just a question: do you really mean "right adjunctions" or is it "right actions"?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:13):

I meant actions. Interesting mistake - you can see how much I type "adjunctions"! I'll fix that, for other people reading.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:14):

This abstract theory is very pretty and I'm basically glad people developed it to the point of defining "Azumaya monoids" in a bunch of equivalent ways.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:19):

But I still think there should be a simple string diagram proof that these two concepts are equivalent:

1) a monoid AA in C\mathsf{C} for which there's a monoid BB such that BAIB \otimes A \cong I in the monoidal bicategory of monoids, bimodules and bimodule homomorphisms.

2) a monoid AA that's separable (it's equipped with a section ss of the multiplication map m:AAAm: A \otimes A \to A in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules) and central: the canonical map p:AAp: A \to A projecting AA down to its center (defined using ss) has image II.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:25):

Item 2) could be somewhat wrong, and Vitale says it rather differently in that paper I linked to. After Proposition 1.3 he says a monoid AA is Azumaya if and only if it is faithfully projective in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules and the canonical arrow AAop[A,A]A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \to [A,A] is an isomorphism.

Here he's assuming C\mathsf{C} is a closed symmetric monoidal category, and [A,A][A,A] is the internal hom. He uses a weird symbol for it... but not a lollipop.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 17:26):

Hmm I know how to draw string diagrams about monoids in a symmetric monoidal category, now I'm not sure how to draw the bimodules between them and the bimodule homorphisms.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:28):

You can draw string diagrams in any bicategory, by shading the regions with objects. Believe it or not, this is actually explained on Wikipedia. (I keep telling people that whenever I learn anything I start by reading Wikipedia.)

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 17:32):

Ok, nice if you want to work in a generic bicategory. But in fact here, it's not complicated to write string diagrams about bimodules between monoids in a symmetric monoidal category. You just have to write diagrams for the actions which are of the same form than the ones for the monoids.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 17:33):

So now, maybe you can add big arrows \Rightarrow for the bimodules morphisms and success to write all your equations.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 17:35):

I'm not sure about this last sentence.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:35):

You're right: the fact that we're dealing with a bicategory of bimodules of monoids in a symmetric monoidal category means we have a choice of how to draw things! The supposedly equivalent conditions 1) and 2) may be best drawn in two different styles, and then we'd need to show how those styles are related.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 17:37):

It would be nice to reduce a bunch of this Azumaya-Brauer-Morita theory to pictures!

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 17:38):

Sure!

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 18:12):

To start, we can very well draw in string diagrams what are two monoids A,BA,B, an (A,B)(A,B)-bimodule and a morphism of (A,B)(A,B)-bimodules, in a symmetric monoidal category.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 18:13):

I drew it here

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (May 27 2023 at 18:23):

John Baez said:

On the top of page 4 this lists four equivalent definitions of an Azumaya algebra in classic case of RR-algebras, including the two I'm interested in, and threatens to generalize these to "Azumaya monoids" in a pretty general symmetric monoidal category. So that's what I want!

Note that the treatment in Azumaya Categories is more general: instead of working with monoids in a monoidal category V\mathcal V, which are one-object V\mathcal V-categories, they work with arbitrary V\mathcal V-categories.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 27 2023 at 18:47):

Yes. It's very cool. I added a discussion Azumaya categories to the nLab article [[Azumaya algebra]], along with some other stuff. But I don't think I need this generalization for what I'm trying to do.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 18:48):

I think there is no problem to express in string diagrams that 1) There exists an equivalence AopAIA^{op} \otimes A \sim I for a monoid AA and 2) there exists a section AAAA \rightarrow A \otimes A of m:AAAm:A\otimes A \rightarrow A such that mm followed by the symmetry AAAAA \otimes A \rightarrow A \otimes A followed by the multiplication AAAA \otimes A \rightarrow A is equal to the counit ϵ:AI\epsilon:A \rightarrow I followed by the unit ι:IA\iota:I \rightarrow A.

I have just one question. What is the definition of this counit?

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 18:51):

Also, I'm not sure that a proof using the basic string diagrams of symmetric monoidal categories will be shorter. But it will be more visual for sure!

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 19:07):

I think it must be easy to verify if "there exists an equivalence AopAIA^{op} \otimes A \sim I" and "there exists an equivalence AAopIA \otimes A^{op} \sim I" are equivalent using these string diagrams.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 19:08):

At least I can try to prove it. If it's false, it will be more difficult to prove that it is false.

view this post on Zulip Leopold Schlicht (May 27 2023 at 19:31):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

If it's false, it will be more difficult to prove that it is false.

If it's true, it will be even more difficult to prove that it is false! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 19:40):

A lemma that is super easily seen with string diagrams is that (AB)op=(AopBop)(A \otimes B)^{op} = (A^{op} \otimes B^{op}) and so (AopA)op=AAop(A^{op} \otimes A)^{op} = A \otimes A^{op} (because (Aop)op=AA^{op})^{op} = A).

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 19:41):

(AopA^{op} is the monoid obtained by taking the object AA, you keep the same unit, but you do a twist before the multiplication of AA.)

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 19:43):

And the multiplication of ABA \otimes B is obtained by writing A B A BA~B~A~B and using the two multiplication to arrive to A BA~B

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 19:56):

Also Iop=II^{op}=I and I believe that every (A,B)(A,B)-bimodule XX is also a (Bop,Aop)(B^{op},A^{op})-bimodule XX' (with same underlying object).

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 27 2023 at 20:09):

and every (A,B)(A,B)-bimodule morphism u:XYu:X \rightarrow Y induces a (Bop,Aop)(B^{op},A^{op})-bimodule morphism u:XYu':X' \rightarrow Y'

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:11):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

I think there is no problem to express in string diagrams that 1) There exists an equivalence AopAIA^{op} \otimes A \sim I for a monoid AA and 2) there exists a section AAAA \rightarrow A \otimes A of m:AAAm:A\otimes A \rightarrow A such that mm followed by the symmetry AAAAA \otimes A \rightarrow A \otimes A followed by the multiplication AAAA \otimes A \rightarrow A is equal to the counit ϵ:AI\epsilon:A \rightarrow I followed by the unit ι:IA\iota:I \rightarrow A.

I have just one question. What is the definition of this counit?

That's a tricky and interesting question. I am most familiar with the case when our symmetric monoidal category C\mathsf{C} is the category of finite-dimensional vector spaces over a field kk so let me talk about that case first. Then AA is a finite-dimensional algebra over a field. In this case we can always define a counit ϵ:Ak\epsilon: A \to k as follows:

ϵ(a)=tr(La)\epsilon(a) = \mathrm{tr}(L_a)

where for any aAa \in A the map La:AAL_a: A \to A is given by left multiplication

La(b)=ab L_a(b) = a b

You may enjoy showing

ϵ(ab)=ϵ(ba)\epsilon(a b) = \epsilon(b a)

in this context.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:13):

It's easy to generalize this to the case where C\mathsf{C} is any symmetric monoidal category and ACA \in \mathsf{C} is any monoid whose underlying object has a dual AA^\ast. That is, it's easy if you know about duals of objects in symmetric monoidal categories, and how they are used to define traces!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:14):

As with any adjunction, the dual of an object in a symmetric monoidal category comes along with morphisms called the unit and counit, which are unfortunately completely different from the things I was calling the unit and counit here:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:15):

there exists a section AAAA \rightarrow A \otimes A of m:AAAm:A\otimes A \rightarrow A such that mm followed by the symmetry AAAAA \otimes A \rightarrow A \otimes A followed by the multiplication AAAA \otimes A \rightarrow A is equal to the counit ϵ:AI\epsilon:A \rightarrow I followed by the unit ι:IA\iota:I \rightarrow A.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:18):

So let me use some other names! Our object AA and its dual AA^\ast - which I'm assuming exists :warning: - come with morphisms

μ:IAA \mu: I \to A \otimes A^\ast
η:AAI \eta : A^\ast \otimes A \to I

often called the unit and counit, obeying the [[triangle identities]].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:24):

Because AA is a monoid with with multiplication m:AAm: A \to A we can form this composite:

A1AμAAAm1AAASA,AAAηI A \xrightarrow{1_A \otimes \mu} A \otimes A \otimes A^\ast \xrightarrow{m \otimes 1_{A^\ast}} A \otimes A^\ast \xrightarrow{S_{A,A^\ast}} A^\ast \otimes A \xrightarrow{\eta} I

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:24):

And this is the thing I was calling ϵ:AI\epsilon: A \to I.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:27):

In the long composite above I'm using the symmetry SA,A:AAAAS_{A,A^\ast}: A \otimes A^\ast \to A^\ast \otimes A.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:30):

It's a fun exercise to check that when AA is a monoid in the symmetric monoidal category of finite-dimensional vector spaces, this definition of ϵ:AI\epsilon: A \to I agrees with the one I mentioned before:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:31):

ϵ(a)=tr(La)\epsilon(a) = \mathrm{tr}(L_a)

where for any aAa \in A the map La:AAL_a: A \to A is given by left multiplication

La(b)=ab L_a(b) = a b

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:32):

In short: we get ϵ:AI\epsilon: A \to I whenever AA has a dual. So the next question is: why, in our general abstract nonsense situation, should an Azumaya monoid have a dual?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:33):

But that's a bit hard too, and I'm worn out for now.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 00:44):

By the way, I find this thing:

A1AμAAAm1AAASA,AAAηI A \xrightarrow{1_A \otimes \mu} A \otimes A \otimes A^\ast \xrightarrow{m \otimes 1_{A^\ast}} A \otimes A^\ast \xrightarrow{S_{A,A^\ast}} A^\ast \otimes A \xrightarrow{\eta} I

to be much clearer using string diagrams. I did a bunch of related string diagram calculations on pages 82-85 here.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 02:18):

Thanks for the explanations! I'm a bit tired right now me too, I'll try to understand all of this a bit later!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:47):

A correction:

John Baez said:

Say AA is the algebra of n×nn \times n matrices with entries in RR. Let eijAe_{i j} \in A be the elementary matrices. Then here's a A,AA,A-bimodule homomorphism

AARAA \mapsto A \otimes_R A

that's a right inverse for multiplication:

eij1nk=1neikekj e_{ij} \mapsto \frac{1}{n} \sum_{k=1}^n e_{ik} \otimes e_{kj}

But notice, this only works if we can divide by nn in RR.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:49):

In fact there's an A,AA,A-bimodule homomorphism that's a right inverse for multiplication even if we can't divide by nn.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:50):

The trick is to define it by

1ieijeji 1 \mapsto \sum_i e_{i j} \otimes e_{j i}

where we don't sum over jj.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:53):

Then, for it to be a left AA-module homomorphism it must do this:

ekiekeijeji=ekjej e_{k \ell} \mapsto \sum_i e_{k \ell} e_{ij} \otimes e_{ji} = e_{kj} \otimes e_{j \ell}

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:54):

For it to be a right AA-module homomorphism it must do this:

ekieijejiek=ekjej e_{k\ell} \mapsto \sum_i e_{ij} \otimes e_{ji} e_{k \ell} = e_{kj} \otimes e_{j \ell}

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:55):

Luckily these agree. So we use this as our rule for the map, and it's easy to see that multiplication sends ekjeje_{k j} \otimes e_{j \ell} back to eke_{k\ell}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:56):

This choice of splitting is scarily arbitrary since it depends on a choice of jj.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:57):

To avoid the arbitrariness we could sum over all jj and then divide by nn... which is what I suggested before... but that only works if nn is invertible in our ring RR.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 20:57):

Okay, I've been a bit silent because I was trying to make sense of traces and I can't figure out why if f:AAf:A \rightarrow A and g:AAg:A \rightarrow A are morphisms such that AA is dualizable, then Tr(f;g)=Tr(g;f)Tr(f;g) = Tr(g;f). I have seen graphical proofs in the context of compact closed categories but I don't succeed to understand how to translate these drawings in equations or commutative diagrams.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 20:59):

Hi! It's very tiring to explain all the rules for translating string diagrams in compact closed categories into equations or commutative diagrams when you're in an environment where it's hard to draw pictures, like we are here. So I won't try.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:01):

This particular proof is something that's incredibly beautiful with string diagrams: the "cyclic property of the trace", tr(fg)=tr(gf)\mathrm{tr}(fg) = \mathrm{tr}(gf) is proven just by cycling things around, using the fact that the trace is defined using a loop.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:03):

But... okay, here's an explanation on Qiaochu Yuan's excellent blog:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:04):

I don't know if it will help you - but by the way, I've been getting a lot of good information about separable algebras from his blog, and I think every mathematician who likes categories and algebra should read his blog.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 21:05):

Ah thanks! I've seen the pictures that make the morphisms turning around but I want to see how it comes from the equations, so I'm going to read that.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:09):

He claims to explain it.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:13):

Okay, I think my earlier remarks involving the center of a separable algebra were a bit wrong-headed. I think this paper has a better idea:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:16):

I'm used to working with finite-dimensional separable algebras over a field, and there I can freely use the duals of those algebras - that is, their dual vector spaces - and the fact that finite-dimensional vector spaces form a [[compact closed category]]. But working over a general ring, or in a general symmetric monoidal category, it becomes questionable whether we're allowed to assume our separable algebras have duals.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:16):

There's even the question of whether separable algebras over a field are automatically finite-dimensional or not!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:17):

It seems they are - but the proof is rather hard:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:20):

This is different from [[Frobenius algebras]], where it's really easy to see they are finite-dimensional. All the [[separable algebras]] I really understand well are Frobenius algebras. These two concepts are deeply related, as you can see from the nLab articles (which I helped write back when I was using these algebras to study TQFT).

But when @Jean-Baptiste Vienney asked me to cough up the counit for an arbitrary separable algebra, I choked! Even working over a field, I couldn't do it without assuming the algebra is finite-dimensional!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:23):

Luckily, Vitale has a better approach. Let's work in a [[Benabou cosmos]] C\mathsf{C}, meaning a symmetric monoidal closed category C\mathsf{C} with small limits and colimits. A cosmos is a gold-plated sort of category that makes everything nice. We can reduce the assumptions later if we actually prove anything interesting!

In a cosmos C\mathsf{C}, Vitale claims the following are equivalent:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:25):

  1. Azumaya monoids, defined as monoids ACA \in \mathsf{C} that have a tensor inverse up to Morita equivalence, meaning a monoid BB such that ABIA \otimes B \cong I in the bicategory of monoids in C\mathsf{C}, bimodules, and bimodule homomorphsms.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:36):

  1. Monoids ACA \in \mathsf{C} that are faithfully projective in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules and have the property that the obvious morphism I[A,A]I \to [A,A] in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules is an isomorphism.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:37):

Now, the second one looks rather scary and technical to me, but I'm slowly learning to love it.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:39):

For starters, the category of A,AA,A-bimodules is monoidal closed, so it has an internal hom, which I'm denoting by [,][-,-].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:42):

(If you don't like bimodules remember that an X,YX,Y-bimodule is the same as an XYopX \otimes Y^{\mathrm{op}}-module, so bimodules can be seen as a special sort of modules. And in a symmetric monoidal category C\mathsf{C} that's a cosmos, I'm pretty sure any monoid XX has a closed monoidal category of modules!)

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 21:47):

The property that I[A,A]I \rightarrow [A,A] is an isomorphism is very strong, in the category of finite dimensional vector space, it means that AA is one-dimensional... if I'm not mistaken.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:48):

You didn't yet read my explanation of what I meant by [,][-,-].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:48):

If I meant the internal hom in C\mathsf{C} then you'd be correct.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:49):

Let me explain what [A,A][A,A] is actually like when C=Vect\mathsf{C} = \mathsf{Vect}. (By the way, finite-dimensional vector spaces don't form a cosmos. It's not a big deal, but it's worth noting.)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:50):

So, when C=Vect\mathsf{C} = \mathsf{Vect}, AA is an algebra, and [A,A][A,A] is the algebra of all linear maps f:AAf: A \to A that are actually A,AA,A-bimodule endomorphisms:

af(b)c=f(abc) a f(b) c = f(abc)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:51):

Every left AA-module endomorphism of AA is right multiplication by some element of AA, so we know

f(b)=bxf (b) = b x

for some fixed xAx \in A.

Then af(b)c=f(abc)a f(b) c = f(abc) implies xx in the center of AA!

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 21:52):

Oh, I see, ok, I was thinking to I,II,I-bimodule endomorphisms.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:53):

Okay.

So: [A,A][A,A] is just the center of AA in this case!

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 21:54):

Ohhh, so this condition is the one that the center of AA is II like before, it makes sense!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:54):

Right: saying the "obvious" map I[A,A]I \to [A,A] (I hope it's actually obvious) is an isomorphism, is saying that the center of AA consists just of scalars, i.e. elements of I=kI = k, where kk is our field.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:55):

But I don't think I used anything special about fields here; I believe everything I just said works when C\mathsf{C} is modules of any commutative ring RR.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:56):

So in this class of examples - the "classical" examples - we have a nice way of saying that the center of our RR-algebra AA is just RR.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:56):

Such algebras are called central.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:57):

So, in general, we'll say a monoid ACA \in \mathsf{C} is central when the obvious morphism of A,AA,A-bimodules I[A,A]I \to [A,A] is an isomorphism!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 21:58):

Here's a question I don't know how to answer, though the first few steps are clear:

Puzzle 1. - if A,BA,B are central monoids in a cosmos C\mathsf{C}, is ABA \otimes B central?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:00):

In the case where C=Vect\mathsf{C} = \mathsf{Vect}, this is true. And it's also easy to see that the tensor product of Azumaya monoids is Azumaya, so if 1. and 2. are really equivalent (like Benabou and Vitale claim), it's at least reasonable to hope that the tensor product of central monoids is central, even though it doesn't actually follow, since an Azumaya monoid is a central monoid with some extra property.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:02):

If someone digs into Puzzle 1 they'll probably start wondering how [AB,AB][A \otimes B, A \otimes B] is related to [A,A][A,A] and [B,B][B,B]. Just remember that [,][-,-] means something different in each expression!!!

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 22:03):

John Baez said:

Right: saying the "obvious" map I[A,A]I \to [A,A] (I hope it's actually obvious) is an isomorphism, is saying that the center of AA consists just of scalars, i.e. elements of I=kI = k, where kk is our field.

Actually it's not so obvious. We have AAAAA \otimes_{A} A \cong A in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules and so you obtain A[A,A]A \rightarrow [A,A] by monoidal closure and then you compose with the unit IAI \rightarrow A to get your map I[A,A]I \rightarrow [A,A].

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 22:03):

If I'm not mistaken.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:05):

Also, I don't see what, in the case of algebras over a field, this A,AA,A-bimodule map A[A,A]A \to [A,A] is supposed to be!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:05):

We've seen [A,A][A,A] is the center of AA.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:06):

But there's not a very good map from an algebra to its center, except in some special cases (like commutative algebras :upside_down:).

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 22:07):

I'm currently thinking :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:08):

Your abstract argument getting a map from AA to [A,A][A,A] looks convincing, but since I don't see what it gives in the "classical example" I'm afraid there's some confusion floating around here....

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 22:09):

This thing of looking at bimodules over algebras over a commutative ring instead of just modules over the commutative ring makes my brain burning.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 22:10):

I always forget what are the "base rings".

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:11):

Right. I mentioned that bimodules over algebras are really just modules over (other) algebras:

John Baez said:

(If you don't like bimodules remember that an X,YX,Y-bimodule is the same as an XYopX \otimes Y^{\mathrm{op}}-module, so bimodules can be seen as a special sort of modules.

So, to think about bimodules over algebras over a commutative ring, you can just think about modules over an algebra over a commutative ring. And those behave a lot like modules over a not necessarily commutative ring.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:14):

If we couldn't stack ideas on top of other ideas like this we wouldn't be category theorists. :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 28 2023 at 22:15):

That burning sensation actually means you are growing new neurons.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 28 2023 at 22:17):

Aaaah good, so I don't suffer for nothing.

view this post on Zulip David Michael Roberts (May 28 2023 at 22:19):

Is [A,-] a right adjoint here?

view this post on Zulip David Michael Roberts (May 28 2023 at 22:20):

Or does it not make sense to consider [A,-] as a functor here, with [A,A] as merely one value of it?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:29):

Thanks for asking! It's supposed to be some sort of internal hom, right adjoint to some tensor product. It's described in item v on page 96 here:

using notation that's too baroque for me to reproduce here, and not very well explained.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:32):

From the notation I assumed this [-,-] thing was an internal hom in the monoidal category of A,A-bimodules, or equivalently AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}} modules.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:33):

So I would guess that [A,][A,-] is right adjoint to the endofunctor AAA \otimes_A -, where A \otimes_A is the tensor product of A,AA,A-bimodules.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:35):

But now that you mention it, that can't be right! The endofunctor AAA \otimes_A - is just the identity on the category of A,AA,A-bimodules, so its right adjoint is just the identity!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:35):

So, if this is what Vitale meant, we'd have [A,A]A[A,A] \cong A, and what he's claiming doesn't make sense.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:37):

He's claiming that when the ambient symmetric monoidal category is Vect\mathsf{Vect}, [A,A][A,A] is the center of the algebra AA.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:39):

So I'm pretty sure that what he means is this: if XX and YY are A,AA,A-bimodules, [X,Y][X,Y] is the set of A,AA,A-bimodule morphisms from XX to YY. This set has its own A,AA,A-bimodule structure, unless I'm going insane.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:40):

With this interpretation [A,A][A,A] really is the center of AA.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:41):

But if this is what Vitale means, what is [A,][A,-] right adjoint to, if anything??? I'm left asking @David Michael Roberts's question.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:46):

John Baez said:

So I'm pretty sure that what he means is this: if XX and YY are A,AA,A-bimodules, [X,Y][X,Y] is the set of A,AA,A-bimodule morphisms from XX to YY. This set has its own A,AA,A-bimodule structure, unless I'm going insane.

Okay, so I was going insane. The set of A,AA,A-bimodule morphisms from AA to AA is only an A,AA,A-bimodule when AA is commutative.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:47):

For example suppose f:AAf: A \to A is an A,AA,A-bimodule morphism:

f(abc)=af(b)c f(abc) = a f(b) c

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:48):

Then multiplying ff on the left (or right) by an element xAx \in A ruins this property:

xf(abc)axf(b)c xf (abc) \ne a \, xf(b) \,c

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:53):

So, given a monoid AA in the cosmos C\mathsf{C} and A,AA,A-bimodules XX and YY in this cosmos, I believe Vitale wants [X,Y][X,Y] to be the C\mathsf{C}-object of A,AA,A-bimodule morphisms from XX to YY. It's not an A,AA,A-bimodule itself, just an object in C\mathsf{C}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:57):

However, [X,X][X,X] is better: it's a monoid object in C\mathsf{C}!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:57):

And so it has a unit I[X,X]I \to [X,X].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:57):

And this fact, I believe, give the so-called "obvious" map I[A,A]I \to [A,A] that I was mentioning:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:58):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

John Baez said:

Right: saying the "obvious" map I[A,A]I \to [A,A] (I hope it's actually obvious) is an isomorphism, is saying that the center of AA consists just of scalars, i.e. elements of I=kI = k, where kk is our field.

Actually it's not so obvious.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 29 2023 at 01:59):

It's like the old joke where a professor says something is obvious, the student asks him if it's really obvious, and the professor goes away, comes back three days later and says "yes, it's obvious".

view this post on Zulip David Kern (May 31 2023 at 11:20):

I just saw this discussion so I haven't had the time to read all the arguments (so I apologise if I missed something making this irrelevant), but I think you may be interested in this preprint that came out a few days ago, especially sections 5.5 and 6 addressing this issue in monoidal (,1)(\infty,1)-categories.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 00:27):

Thanks! That looks helpful even though I'm not ready to plunge into an (,1)(\infty,1)-categorical treatment!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 00:27):

I had not seen this before.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 00:29):

I have been making a lot of progress this week thanks in part to this paper:

and thanks in part to conversations with Todd Trimble.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 00:30):

I'd like to outline some thoughts and state some theorems and conjectures that deserve nice simple proofs (if they're correct).

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 00:32):

Let me start by reviewing the basic ideas, which make sense at a high level of generality. Then I'll state some theorems and conjectures in the case of algebras over commutative rings. Maybe some of you can help find nice proofs and/or generalize them.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 00:33):

Whoops, first I have to take a walk. :big_frown:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 02:27):

Okay, let me start with the general context. Let's take V to be a very nice symmetric monoidal category: closed, complete and cocomplete. This is what Benabou called a cosmos.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 02:46):

There is then a bicategory VMod where:

I will try to remember to write \nrightarrow for V-profunctors and \to for V-enriched functors (or V-functors, for short).

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 02:47):

I don't know good references for these facts:

Theorem 1 VMod is a symmetric monoidal bicategory.

Theorem 2. VMod is compact closed.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 02:49):

Here's a good place to see the definitions spelled out:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 02:52):

The example that looms large in my mind is V = RMod, the category of modules of a commutative ring, with the usual tensor product MRNM \otimes_R N of modules giving the symmetric monoidal structure.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 02:55):

In this case

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 02:56):

When V = RMod we can more generally call a V-enriched category an algebroid over R, but there's vastly more literature on algebras.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:01):

I'm trying to understand Azumaya algebras, but the general concept is this:

Definition. A V-category C is Azumaya if there is a V-category D such that C \otimes D \simeq I in VMod.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:02):

Here \otimes is the tensor product of V-enriched categories and I is the unit for this tensor product. So Azumaya V-categories are, morally speaking, the invertible ones.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:03):

But notice that \simeq stands for equivalence in the bicategory VMod, so Azumaya V-categories need only be invertible up to equivalence.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:06):

My goal, ultimately, is to find nice proofs of a bunch of facts about Azumaya V-categories. Some of these facts are already known. One-object Azumaya V-categories where V = RMod for a commutative ring are called Azumaya algebras and there are some very interesting theorems about these.

Now I already said that VMod is compact closed. This means that every V-category CC has a dual CC^\ast which comes with a unit

ι:ICC \iota: I \nrightarrow C \otimes C^\ast

and counit

ϵ:CCI \epsilon: C^\ast \otimes C \nrightarrow I

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:07):

which obey the usual triangle identities up to isomorphism.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:10):

In other words, they form a biadjunction. (The isomorphisms I alluded to can always be improved to obey some laws of their own called the 'swallowtail identities' - but this may not ever matter to us, though it would be fun for me if it did.)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:13):

Now, there's another fundamental result that I don't know a reference for:

Theorem 3. Any two duals of an object in a symmetric monoidal bicategory are equivalent. Given a V-category CC, the opposite V-category CopC^{\text{op}}, defined in a way analogous to the usual opposite of a category, serves as a dual for CC in VMod.

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (Jun 01 2023 at 03:17):

John Baez said:

Okay, let me start with the general context. Let's take V to be a very nice symmetric monoidal category: closed, complete and cocomplete. This is what Benabou called a cosmos.

Is it really necessary to suppose VV to be complete and cocomplete to prove your results? Is it sufficient to only suppose that VV is finitely complete and finitely cocomplete? In this case, you could also chose V=FinVectkV=FinVect_{k} for example.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:21):

I am not going to try to find minimal assumptions for my results! It's important, but it would clutter the big picture I'm trying to paint. The proofs of the results will show us what the minimal assumptions are; these may vary from result to result.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:27):

To repeat and expand on what I said:

Theorem 3. Given a V-category CC, the opposite V-category CopC^{\text{op}}, defined in a way analogous to the usual opposite of a category, serves as a dual for CC in VMod. The counit

ϵ:CopCI\epsilon: C^{\text{op}} \otimes C \nrightarrow I

can be taken to be the hom of CC, which is the V-functor

hom: CopCVC^{\text{op}} \otimes C \to V

Furthermore, we can twist around this V-profunctor and get the unit

ι:ICCop \iota: I \nrightarrow C \otimes C^{\text{op}}

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (Jun 01 2023 at 03:28):

John Baez said:

I am not going to try to find minimal assumptions for my results! It's important, but it would clutter the big picture I'm trying to paint. The proofs of the results will show us what the minimal assumptions are; these may vary from result to result.

(Ok, my intuition is that all of this will not use any "infinity" but I'm maybe mistaken. Mathematicians often suppose that some category is "complete" or "cocomplete" instead of simply supposing that all the limit and colimit they use exist which would be better.) But that's a bit out of subject, sorry, just a side note.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 03:39):

Next, yet another result I don't know a reference for:

Theorem 4. If C, D are objects in a symmetric monoidal bicategory and C \otimes D \simeq I, then we can find a unit and counit making D into a dual of C.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 04:21):

John Baez said:

Theorem 1 VMod is a symmetric monoidal bicategory.

One way to prove this, which I unsurprisingly happen to think is nice and clean, is to combine Framed bicategories and monoidal fibrations with Constructing symmetric monoidal bicategories. In example 15.4 of FBMF I observed that if you make a symmetric monoidal category VV indexed/fibered over Set\rm Set in the canonical way by taking families of objects, then it is frameable so you can make it into a double category, and then that double category has local coequalizers so you can take the double category of monoids and modules therein, which is your VModV\rm Mod. In the symmetric case all the monoidal structures carry through, so you can then apply CSMB to make the symmetric monoidal double category into a symmetric monoidal bicategory.

This fact was of course known to category theorists (particularly Australians) long before my papers, but I don't actually know of another place where it is proven carefully.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 04:24):

Jean-Baptiste Vienney said:

(Ok, my intuition is that all of this will not use any "infinity" but I'm maybe mistaken. Mathematicians often suppose that some category is "complete" or "cocomplete" instead of simply supposing that all the limit and colimit they use exist which would be better.)

If you want a bicategory VModV\rm Mod whose objects are arbitrary small VV-categories, then you need VV to have arbitrary small colimits in order to define composition of VV-profunctors. You can get away with finite colimits if you restrict the objects of VModV\rm Mod to be VV-categories with finitely many objects. Or you can try to use something like a [[virtual double category]] instead, but that doesn't work so well for duality theory.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 04:32):

John Baez said:

Theorem 2. VMod is compact closed.
...
Theorem 3. Given a V-category CC, the opposite V-category CopC^{\text{op}}, defined in a way analogous to the usual opposite of a category, serves as a dual for CC in VMod.

I'm not sure how one could prove theorem 2 without proving theorem 3 (which should have theorem 2 as an immediate consequence). One fairly early reference for this is section 7 of Day & Street's Monoidal bicategories and Hopf algebroids (1997), but they don't give any more details of the proof than you did. I don't offhand know of somewhere that gives more details.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 04:34):

John Baez said:

Theorem 4. If C, D are objects in a symmetric monoidal bicategory and C \otimes D \simeq I, then we can find a unit and counit making D into a dual of C.

I don't think I knew that (did I?). I find it very surprising. I guess it must use the symmetry fundamentally somehow? It's certainly not true that if FF and GG are functors and FGIdF\circ G \cong \rm Id then they are adjoint.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 05:22):

Thanks for all your comments, which will help me a lot if I ever write something up, e.g. on the nLab .

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 05:24):

You're right that Theorem 3 is how to prove Theorem 2; I was going for the gradual reveal.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 05:35):

I hope Theorem 4 is right. The idea is to take an equivalence

e:CDI e: C \otimes D \nrightarrow I

and take a weak inverse and compose it with the symmetry to get an equivalence

i:IDC i: I \nrightarrow D \otimes C

and then finagle around until we get a dual of CC in the sense I defined. I'll try to scribble out a string diagram proof.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 05:46):

Now, if Theorems 1-4 are true, we can conclude:

Corollary 5. A V-category CC is Azumaya iff its hom, made into a V-profunctor from CopCC^{\text{op}} \otimes C to VV, is an equivalence in VMod.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 05:53):

The \Leftarrow direction is obvious but the \Rightarrow direction uses Theorems 2-4 and (if it's true) it's a useful condition for Azumayaness, since it means we don't have to run around looking for a weak inverse to CC: if it exists, it's the opposite VV-category!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 05:54):

I'll quit now... but so far I'm just warming up.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 05:56):

Now is a great time for people to raise questions, raise objections, provide more references, or (dis)prove Theorem 4!

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 13:16):

John Baez said:

I hope Theorem 4 is right. The idea is to take an equivalence e:CDI e: C \otimes D \to I and take a weak inverse and compose it with the symmetry to get an equivalence i:IDC i: I \to D \otimes C...

Oh, of course! Once you have both ee and ii, then you just need the fact that any equivalence can be improved to an adjoint equivalence.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 13:16):

(Applied in the delooping of your monoidal bicategory to a tricategory.)

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 13:19):

In Corollary 5, do you mean to refer to the hom as a profunctor from CopCC^{\rm op}\otimes C to II? Writing it as a functor CopCVC^{\rm op}\otimes C\to V doesn't indicate its domain and codomain qua profunctor, it could equally be a profunctor from CC to CC.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 01 2023 at 15:34):

By the way, have you looked at Niles Johnson's paper Azumaya Objects in Triangulated Bicategories? His characterization theorem 1.6 seems to be along the lines that you're talking about.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 16:23):

Mike Shulman said:

In Corollary 5, do you mean to refer to the hom as a profunctor from CopCC^{\rm op}\otimes C to II? Writing it as a functor CopCVC^{\rm op}\otimes C\to V doesn't indicate its domain and codomain qua profunctor, it could equally be a profunctor from CC to CC.

I meant the hom is a profunctor from CopCC^{\rm op}\otimes C to II. I was forgetting the latex to write hom:CopCV\mathrm{hom} : C^{\rm op}\otimes C\nrightarrow V to indicate we've got a profunctor here, and sort of hoping I wouldn't need to introduce that notation.

**[EDIT: I later gave up, went back, and tried to consistently use \nrightarrow for enriched profunctors and \rightarrow for enriched functors.)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 16:34):

Mike Shulman said:

John Baez said:

I hope Theorem 4 is right. The idea is to take an equivalence e:CDI e: C \otimes D \to I and take a weak inverse and compose it with the symmetry to get an equivalence i:IDC i: I \to D \otimes C...

Oh, of course! Once you have both ee and ii, then you just need the fact that any equivalence can be improved to an adjoint equivalence.

Right. For anyone who wants to see a string diagram proof of what we're talking about here, try the pictures in the proof of Theorem 14 on page 19 here. Here we've got a monoidal category where every object xx has an object x\overline{x} with isomorphisms xxxxIx \otimes \overline{x} \cong \overline{x} \otimes x \cong I, and we improve one of those isomorphisms in order to make x\overline{x} into the dual of xx - i.e., in order to get isomorphisms obeying the [[triangle identities]]. The argument is visually quite pretty.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 16:34):

So what I'm doing now is the same argument, but with all the equations in the string diagram calculation replaced by isomorphisms.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 16:41):

Mike Shulman said:

By the way, have you looked at Niles Johnson's paper Azumaya Objects in Triangulated Bicategories? His characterization theorem 1.6 seems to be along the lines that you're talking about.

Oh yes, this looks like exactly what I was trying to do! My Corollary 5 proved the equivalence between Johnson's conditions iv and v. But what I'm really shooting for is the equivalence between ii and v: the connection between Azumaya algebras and central separable algebras, worked out at a high level of generality.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 16:44):

I don't feel heartbroken that Johnson already did this, because this equivalence is already visible, at least in a special case, in this paper I was reading (thanks in part to @Nathanael Arkor):

and I'm just trying to understand it enough that I can use it for what I'm really trying to do: some nefarious scheme I'll reveal in the fullness of time.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 01 2023 at 16:44):

So I'll just keep on here, now with a lot of help from Niles Johnson.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:14):

So let's pick up here:

John Baez said:

Corollary 5. A V-category CC is Azumaya iff its hom, made into a V-profunctor from CopCC^{\text{op}} \otimes C to VV, is an equivalence in VMod.

and see more concretely what happens when that hom, viewed as a V-profunctor, is an equivalence.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:18):

I think now I'll break down and use F:ABF: A \nrightarrow B to mean FF is a V-profunctor and F:ABF: A \to B to mean FF is a V-functor, at least for a while.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:37):

So, any V-profunctor F:ABF : A \nrightarrow B is (by definition) a V-functor from ABopA \otimes B^{\mathrm{op}} to VV, which amounts to the same thing as V-functors from AA to B^\hat{B}, the V-category of V-functors from BopB^{\text{op}} to V.

B^\hat{B} is called the category of V-enriched presheaves on BB.

By a spinoff of the enriched Yoneda lemma, V-functors from AA to B^\hat{B} in turn amount to the same thing as cocontinuous V-functors from A^\hat{A} to B^\hat{B}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:47):

So, the symmetric monoidal bicategory I've been calling VMod, where

is equivalent to one where

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:49):

So we get a new viewpoint on VMod. From this new viewpoint, what does it mean to say a V-category CC is Azumaya?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:51):

In the old viewpoint CC is Azumaya if its hom, made into a V-profunctor from CopCC^{\text{op}} \otimes C to VV, is an equivalence in VMod.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 02 2023 at 01:55):

Don't you mean a VV-profunctor from CopCC^{\rm op}\otimes C to II, the unit VV-category?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:56):

Yes. Thanks:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 01:56):

In the old viewpoint CC is Azumaya if its hom, made into a V-profunctor from CopCC^{\text{op}} \otimes C to II, is an equivalence in VMod.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 02:07):

In the new viewpoint it means this. By the universal property of V=I^V = \hat{I}, we can take the hom V-functor

hom:CopCV \mathrm{hom}: C^{\text{op}} \otimes C \to V

and extend it to a cocontinuous V-functor

CopC^V \widehat{ C^{\text{op}} \otimes C} \to V

Then CC is Azumaya iff this cocontinous V-functor is an equivalence.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:04):

Let's summarize and look at an example:

Corollary 6. A V-category CC is Azumaya iff when we extend the V-functor hom:CopCV \mathrm{hom}: C^{\text{op}} \otimes C \to V to a cocontinuous V-functor hom^:CopC^V \widehat{\mathrm{hom}}: \widehat{ C^{\text{op}} \otimes C} \to V , then hom^\widehat{\mathrm{hom}} is an equivalence of V-categories.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:08):

Since this looks a bit scary let's do the example where VV is the category of modules of some commutative ring R and CC is a one-object V-category. As we've seen, such a one-object V-category amounts to the same thing as an (associative unital) R-algebra, say A.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:09):

Then C^\widehat{C} is the V-category of right modules of A.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:11):

Similarly the one-object V-category CopCC^{\text{op}} \otimes C is what we'd normally call the R-algebra AopAA^{\text{op}} \otimes A. So the monstrosity CopC^\widehat{C^{\text{op}} \otimes C} is what we'd normally call the V-category of right modules of AopAA^{\text{op}} \otimes A - or better yet, the V-category of A,AA,A-bimodules.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:15):

So this scary-looking thing

hom^:CopC^V \widehat{\mathrm{hom}}: \widehat{ C^{\text{op}} \otimes C} \to V

maps any A,a-bimodule to some R-module. And if you unwind all the abstractions you see it works like this: it maps any A,A-bimodule MM to the R-module hom^(M,M)\widehat{\mathrm{hom}}(M,M), which consists of all A,A-bimodule endomorphisms of M.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:18):

In summary, we've gotten this:

Corollary 6. For a commutative ring R, an R-algebra A is Azumaya iff the enriched functor sending any A,A-bimodule to its R-module of A,A-bimodule endomorphisms is an equivalence.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:18):

So that was an example! But category theory is the subject where the examples need examples. So let's do an example of this corollary.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:20):

Let's take R to be the ring of real numbers. Since is the boldest of rings we call it R\mathbb{R}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:36):

And let's take our R\mathbb{R}-algebra A to be - you guessed it! - the quaternions, H\mathbb{H}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:41):

A good example of an H,H\mathbb{H},\mathbb{H} bimodule is H\mathbb{H}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:42):

hom^(H,H)\widehat{\mathrm{hom}}(\mathbb{H},\mathbb{H}) consists of all H,H\mathbb{H},\mathbb{H}-bimodule endomorphisms of H\mathbb{H}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:45):

By the ring theory analogue of Cayley's theorem, all the left H\mathbb{H}-module endomorphisms of H\mathbb{H} are given by right multiplication by guys in H\mathbb{H}. And all the right H\mathbb{H}-module endomorphisms of H\mathbb{H} are given by left multiplication by guys in H\mathbb{H}.

So every H,H\mathbb{H},\mathbb{H} bimodule endomorphism is just multiplication by some element of the center of H\mathbb{H}!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:47):

But the center of H\mathbb{H} is just R\mathbb{R}, so we get

hom^(H,H)R\widehat{\mathrm{hom}}(\mathbb{H},\mathbb{H}) \cong \mathbb{R}

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:51):

So far I haven't used anything special about the quaternions. But next, every H,H\mathbb{H},\mathbb{H}-bimodule is isomorphic to a sum of copies of H\mathbb{H}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:52):

Similarly, every R\mathbb{R}-module is a sum of copies of R\mathbb{R}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:54):

And hom^\widehat{\mathrm{hom}} sends the sum of κ\kappa copies of H\mathbb{H} to the sum of κ\kappa copies of R\mathbb{R} since it's cocontinuous.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:56):

So with a little work we can show hom^\widehat{\mathrm{hom}} is an equivalence from the (enriched) category of H,H\mathbb{H},\mathbb{H}-bimodules to the (enriched) category of R\mathbb{R}-modules.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:57):

So, by Corollary 6, the quaternions are an Azumaya algebra over the reals!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 04:58):

This may not be the slickest way to show that fact... but this example is helping me understand Corollary 6.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 02 2023 at 16:31):

John Baez said:

Here \otimes is the tensor product of V-enriched categories and I is the unit for this tensor product, which is just V itself. I'm just writing it as I to emphasize that Azumaya V-categories are, morally speaking, the invertible ones.

No. The unit V-category, II, is the V-category with one object \ast with hom-object I(,)I(\ast,\ast) being 1VV1_V\in V, the monoidal unit in VV.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 02 2023 at 18:03):

I don't think this really affects anything you wrote, just that some of your VV s need to be II s. The confusion there is aided and abetted by the fact that you were not distinguishing V-functors and V-profunctors in your notation. :stuck_out_tongue_wink:

So the hom V-functor

hom ⁣:CopCV\mathrm{hom} \colon C^{\mathrm{op}} \otimes C \to V

corresponds to the unit and counit profunctors

ϵ ⁣:CopCIι ⁣:ICCop.\epsilon \colon C^{\mathrm{op}} \otimes C \nrightarrow I\\ \iota \colon I \nrightarrow C \otimes C^{\mathrm{op}} .

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:04):

Yes, I was confused about II versus VV for a while until Mike set me straight.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:08):

I was hoping to only talk about enriched profunctors and not need to draw two kinds of arrows, but eventually I started wanting to talk about enriched functors too. So I'm really working with a symmetric monoidal double category. I might as well admit it. I've tried to go back, fix things, and write \nrightarrow for profunctors.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 02 2023 at 18:27):

One comment about your [A,A][A, A]. This is the set of 2-morphisms 2hom(idA,idA)2\mathrm{hom}(\mathrm{id}_A, \mathrm{id}_A). In my old terminology this is the 'diagonal trace' of the identity 1-cell on AA, or the 'diagonal dimension' of AAAA, as we think of the trace of the identity as giving the dimension.

If we are thinking of Vmod as a bicategory then a priori this 2-hom should be a set. However, for 'nice' bicategories, the hom-categories, like hom(A,A)\mathbf{hom}(A, A) have a canonical enrichment in the category of scalars hom(I,I)\mathbf{hom}(I, I), and for Vmod this category of scalars is precisely VV.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:29):

I don't remember ever talking about something called [A,A]. But this thread is pretty long!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:30):

Oh, I see, it's way back in the "old" part of the thread before I started a slightly more systematic treatment.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:31):

Btw it's really good to quote stuff with the links included so people (including forgetful people who wrote that old stuff, like me) can click and go back and look at it!

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 02 2023 at 18:31):

John Baez said:

  1. Monoids ACA \in \mathsf{C} that are faithfully projective in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules and have the property that the obvious morphism I[A,A]I \to [A,A] in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules is an isomorphism.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 02 2023 at 18:32):

In this case I thought you were excited about [A,A][A, A] so I wouldn't have expect you to have forgotten about it. :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 02 2023 at 18:33):

John Baez said:

So, when C=Vect\mathsf{C} = \mathsf{Vect}, AA is an algebra, and [A,A][A,A] is the algebra of all linear maps f:AAf: A \to A that are actually A,AA,A-bimodule endomorphisms:

af(b)c=f(abc) a f(b) c = f(abc)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:35):

Thanks! Yeah, I'm still trying to reach various equivalent characterizations of Azumaya algebras, like that one... but starting on May 31 I decided it's better to be a bit more systematic and explain a lot of stuff that's mostly in these papers:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:37):

Simon Willerton said:

In this case I thought you were excited about [A,A][A, A] so I wouldn't have expect you to have forgotten about it. :upside_down:

I didn't forget the thought but I certainly wouldn't have any special memory of something with so bland a name as [A,A][A,A].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:38):

If you read on you'll see that later I later wound up calling this thing hom^(A,A)\widehat{\mathrm{hom}}(A,A). There was a fairly good reason at the time but I'll forget that notation too in a few days.

Anyway, thanks for pointing out that this thing is the hom from 1A1_A to itself in our big bicategory! It's cool how your "two 2-traces" get into the picture here!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:49):

Okay, let's keep going!

Before I dive into "central" and "separable" algebras and their generalizations to V-categories, I want to mention a nice result for R-algebras, meaning associative unital algebras over some commutative ring R.

Theorem 7. The A,B-bimodule M is a left adjoint in the bicategory of R-algebras, bimodules and bimodule homomorphisms iff M is finitely generated and projective as a left B-module.

This is stated without proof as Proposition 2.3 in Borceux and Vitale's Azumaya categories. By now @Todd Trimble has given me a couple of proofs: "ring theorist's proofs" that use known stuff about algebras and their modules, and "category theorist's proofs" that use the conceptual description of finitely generated projective B-modules as precisely those lying in the [[Cauchy completion]] of the one-object RMod-category B.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:51):

I still want to understand this result better, but for now let's see what we can do with it.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 18:54):

By definition A is Azumaya iff there's an equivalence

ϵ:AopAI \epsilon: A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I
ι:IAAop\iota: I \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}}

in our bicategory of V-categories, V-profunctors and V-natural transformations where V = RMod.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:01):

I've also pointed out that we can assume without loss of generality that ϵ\epsilon comes from the hom-functor hom:AopAV\mathrm{hom}: A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \to V.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:05):

But we can always enhance any equivalence in a bicategory to an adjunction, in fact taking either arrow to be the left adjoint and massaging the other until it becomes the right adjoint. So as a consequence of all these facts we get

Corollary 8. An R-algebra A is Azumaya iff the V-profunctor ϵ:AopAI\epsilon: A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I coming from the hom V-functor hom:AopAV\mathrm{hom}: A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \to V is a left adjoint equivalence.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:08):

So assume A is Azumaya. By Theorem 7, we must have

ϵMAopA \epsilon \cong M \otimes_{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} -

for some left II, right AopA{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} module MM which is finitely generated and projective!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:10):

But every object in any monoidal bicategory is automatically a left I-module in just one way (up to isomorphism) so we don't even need to bother saying "left I".

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:11):

A right AopAA^{\text{op}} \otimes A-module is the same as an A,AA,A-bimodule, if that makes you feel better.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:12):

So the main takeaway is that whenever we've got an Azumaya algebra AA, there's a finitely generated projective object MM in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules that attests to this.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:13):

But we don't have to roam around the universe looking for this MM. After all, we knew that ϵ\epsilon came from the hom of AA.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:14):

So this A,AA,A-bimodule MM must be something canonically associated to AA itself.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 02 2023 at 19:15):

But the most obvious A,AA,A-bimodule associated to AA is just AA! So I'll guess that MM is just AA.

Is that right?

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 12:33):

John Baez said:

So assume A is Azumaya. By Theorem 7, we must have

ϵMAopA \epsilon \cong M \otimes_{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} -

for some left II, right AopA{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} module MM which is finitely generated and projective!

I'm a little confused by this. But maybe I'm just not keeping up. Are you now in the situation where you put a hat on, but you've stopped putting a hat on? Is this in the bicategory of functors between module categories rather than bimodules between algebras? The latter you called Vmod, but I don't know if you gave the latter a name.

Anyway, certainly in the bicategory of bimodules between algebras over RR, the ϵ ⁣:AopAI \epsilon\colon A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I which 'comes from hom' is RAAopA{}_R A_{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} where the subscripts denote which algebra acts on which side. Then when we move it into the bicategory of functors between modules categories it becomes AAopA A\otimes _{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A}{-}.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 13:03):

Aside/Digression: You said that if AA is Azumaya then the centre of AA is isomorphic to RR. I note that that's the same as saying the 'diagonal dimension' of AA is RR.

Is it true that the abelianization (commutativization?) of AA is also isomorphic to RR? So is A/{ab=ba}RA/\{ab = ba\} \cong R?

We have a compact closed symmetric monoidal bicategory so we can take the 'categorical trace' of any 1-endomorphism M ⁣:AAM\colon A\nrightarrow A and this trace is an object in the category of scalars hom(I,I)mod(R)\mathbf{hom}(I,I) \cong \text{mod}(R). I call this the 'round trace' as it looks like a circle when you draw it in string diagrams. In particular we can take the round trace of the identity 1-morphism. The identity morphism AAA \nrightarrow A is the bimodule AAA{}_A A_{A} and its round trace (aka the round dimension of AA) is precisely the abelianization of AA.

But the round trace of the identity should just be the composite IAAopAopAII \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \nrightarrow A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I where the arrows are ι\iota, the symmetry and ϵ\epsilon. The arrows are all equivalences, so the composite, ie the trace, should be (quasi) invertible in hom(I,I)mod(R)\mathbf{hom}(I, I) \cong \text{mod}(R). What's that going to be, other than RR? :smiley: (Well, maybe something else interesting!)

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 13:05):

Here invertible means with respect to the composition monoidal product in hom(I,I)\mathbf{hom}(I,I) which corresponds to the tensor product of RR-modules in mod(R)\text{mod}(R).

view this post on Zulip Reid Barton (Jun 04 2023 at 14:43):

Simon Willerton said:

Is it true that the abelianization (commutativization?) of AA is also isomorphic to RR? So is A/{ab=ba}RA/\{ab = ba\} \cong R?

Are you quotienting by the two-sided ideal generated by {abba}\{ab - ba\} or just the RR-submodule? The first one is what I would call the abelianization but the second is the one that might work. For example, the quaternions (R=RR = \mathbb{R}) are a division algebra so the first one would necessarily yield 00 but the second one yields R\mathbb{R}.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 15:05):

Reid Barton said:

Are you quotienting by the two-sided ideal generated by {abba}\{ab - ba\} or just the RR-submodule? The first one is what I would call the abelianization but the second is the one that might work. For example, the quaternions (R=RR = \mathbb{R}) are a division algebra so the first one would necessarily yield 00 but the second one yields R\mathbb{R}.

What I want is AAopAAA\otimes _{A^{op}\otimes A} A. So that means modding out by the RR-submodule {abba}\{ab - ba\}.

It is not an algebra itself, so 'abelianization' is probably a bad term, I agree! It's like a space of coinvariants.

Another term for it zeroth Hochschild homology HH0(A,A)\text{HH}_0(A,A), which is overkill here, but gives some context.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 15:07):

What's a better name?

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 15:35):

(And that's a nice example.)

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 04 2023 at 15:43):

If AA is regarded as a one-object enriched category, then this is the coend of its hom-functor, i.e. its [[trace of a category]].

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 04 2023 at 15:44):

Oh, oops, I missed that you already said that.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 04 2023 at 15:44):

But what's wrong with that as a name?

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 15:51):

I meant a better name in the algebraic context, a better name than abelianization. It is an example of a categorical trace, but that's not what an algebraicist would call it, I doubt.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 04 2023 at 15:53):

I expect an algebraist would probably call it HH0\mathrm{HH}_0. (-:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 16:00):

Simon Willerton said:

John Baez said:

So assume A is Azumaya. By Theorem 7, we must have

ϵMAopA \epsilon \cong M \otimes_{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} -

for some left II, right AopA{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} module MM which is finitely generated and projective!

I'm a little confused by this. But maybe I'm just not keeping up. Are you now in the situation where you put a hat on, but you've stopped putting a hat on? Is this in the bicategory of functors between module categories rather than bimodules between algebras? The latter you called VMod, but I don't know if you gave the former a name.

Yes, it looks like I was being sloppy, but you guessed correctly. This ϵ\epsilon here is a 1-morphism in the bicategory of cocontinuous functors between module categories. It came from a like-named 1-morphism in the bicategory of bimodules between algebras, which is an equivalent bicategory.

To confuse you more, I decided to also call this bimodule MM.

The point was: since this 1-morphism is a left adjoint, by Theorem 7 the bimodule must be finitely generated and projective as a module over one of the two algebras that acts on it.

(Which one? That, alas, involves some conventions which I had messed up.)

Anyway, certainly in the bicategory of bimodules between algebras over RR, the ϵ ⁣:AopAI \epsilon\colon A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I which 'comes from hom' is RAAopA{}_R A_{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} where the subscripts denote which algebra acts on which side. Then when we move it into the bicategory of functors between modules categories it becomes AAopA A\otimes _{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A}{-}.

Okay, great. I got incredibly confused about this for a while, which is why I left it as a question.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 16:18):

To add to the confusion, I got tangled up in the question of whether our module categories should be left module categories or right module categories! Ultimately I got pressured by various forces to use right module categories, but I didn't get it all straightened out. So for consistency with myself I should probably have written

ϵAopAM \epsilon \cong - \otimes_{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A} M

for some left AopA{A^{\text{op}} \otimes A}, right II module MM.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 16:41):

Anyway, when all is said and done, I believe the upshot is this:

Theorem 9. Suppose AA is an Azumaya algebra over the commutative ring RR. Then the counit ϵ:AopAI\epsilon: A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I is an equivalence hence a left adjoint, so AA is finitely generated and projective as a right II-module (i.e. an RR-module). Furthermore the unit ι:IAAop\iota: I \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} is an equivalence hence a left adjoint, so AA is finitely generated and projective as a right AAop A \otimes A^{\text{op}}-module.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 16:47):

If anyone was paying careful attention, they'll see I'm trying to correct some earlier mistakes here:

while

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 16:53):

For Azumaya algebras these are both true. Over a field, the first just says any Azumaya algebra must be finite-dimensional. The second is a bit more exciting.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 16:55):

So, we make up a definition:

Definition. An algebra AA over a commutative ring is separable if it is f.g. projective as an AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}}-module.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 17:14):

But every algebra AA is finitely generated as an AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}}-module since it's generated by 1: every element is 1 times something in AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}}.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 17:16):

So people usually just say

Definition. An algebra AA over a commutative ring is separable if it is projective as an AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}}-module.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 17:19):

Then there's an equivalent characterization which is quite practical and looks very beautiful in terms of string diagrams! This is what I really like:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 17:29):

Theorem 10. An algebra AA over a commutative ring is separable if and only if the multiplication m:AAAm: A \otimes A \to A has a section (= right inverse) s:AAAs: A \to A \otimes A that is an A,AA,A-bimodule homomorphism.

Notice that A,AA,A-bimodules and homomorphisms between these are equivalent to AAopA \otimes A^{\text{op}}-modules and homomorphisms between these; I'm just sick of writing that "op". I'm treating AAA \otimes A as an A,AA,A-bimodule like this:

a(bc)a=abca a (b \otimes c) a' = ab \otimes c a'

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 17:30):

Proof of Theorem 10.     \implies: For any algebra AA multiplication gives an epimorphism

AAmA0 A \otimes A \xrightarrow{m} A \to 0

in the category of A,AA,A-bimodules. Since AAA \otimes A is the free A,AA,A-bimodule on one generator, if mm has a section

AAsA0 A \otimes A \xleftarrow{s} A \to 0

then AA is a summand of a free A,AA,A-bimodule, hence it's projective. (If you know these facts for modules but not bimodules, remember that

\Longleftarrow: If AA is projective as an A,AA,A-bimodule, the epimorphism

AAmA0 A \otimes A \xrightarrow{m} A \to 0

splits, and the splitting is our desired section s:AAAs: A \to A \otimes A. \qquad :purple_square:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 18:47):

More on this later. Next:

Simon Willerton said:

Aside/Digression: You said that if AA is Azumaya then the centre of AA is isomorphic to RR. I note that that's the same as saying the 'diagonal dimension' of AA is RR.

Is it true that the abelianization (commutativization?) of AA is also isomorphic to RR? So is A/{ab=ba}RA/\{ab = ba\} \cong R?

I don't know!

We have a compact closed symmetric monoidal bicategory so we can take the 'categorical trace' of any 1-endomorphism M ⁣:AAM\colon A\nrightarrow A and this trace is an object in the category of scalars hom(I,I)mod(R)\mathbf{hom}(I,I) \cong \text{mod}(R). I call this the 'round trace' as it looks like a circle when you draw it in string diagrams. In particular we can take the round trace of the identity 1-morphism. The identity morphism AAA \nrightarrow A is the bimodule AAA{}_A A_{A} and its round trace (aka the round dimension of AA) is precisely the abelianization of AA.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 18:48):

Or in still other words, is there some natural morphism from the composite

IAAopAopAIAAopAopAII \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \nrightarrow A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \nrightarrow A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I

to

IAAopAopAII \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \nrightarrow A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I

that could make the latter into a monoid in hom(I,I)\mathrm{hom}(I,I)?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 18:51):

And you're conjecturing it's the identity because this is the only element that every group has. :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 18:51):

Which is a perfectly sound strategy.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 18:55):

But we could get more evidence for this if we saw that this zeroth Hochschild homology of our Azumaya algebra AA is not only a weakly invertible object in the category of I,II,I-bimodules but also a monoid object in there.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 18:57):

Does that seem right? In other words: is there some natural algebra structure on the zeroth Hochschild homology of an algebra, or at least an Azumaya algebra?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 19:00):

Or in other words, is there some natural "multiplication" going from the composite

IAAopAopAIAAopAopAII \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \nrightarrow A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \nrightarrow A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I

to the composite

IAAopAopAII \nrightarrow A \otimes A^{\text{op}} \nrightarrow A^{\text{op}} \otimes A \nrightarrow I

?

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 19:51):

John Baez said:

Does that seem right? In other words: is there some natural algebra structure on the zeroth Hochschild homology of an algebra, or at least an Azumaya algebra?

In general, the zeroth Hochschild homology of an algebra is not an algebra. The zeroth Hochschild cohomology of an algebra is an algebra in general - it's the centre of the algebra, which is a subalgebra.

view this post on Zulip Simon Willerton (Jun 04 2023 at 19:59):

Anyway, there's a result of Cortiñas and Weibel in Homology of Azumaya algebra

For a commutative ring RR, if A is an Azumaya R-algebra, then HHi(A)=0HH_i(A) = 0 for i>0i > 0, and
A/[A,A]RA/[A, A] \cong R.

This is another way of saying HH(A)HH(R)HH_\bullet (A) \cong HH_\bullet(R).

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 21:02):

Nice!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 04 2023 at 21:06):

So, we can wonder if there's a slick way to prove this for people who like bicategories of enriched profunctors.

Or, perhaps using the fact that Azumaya algebras are the same as central separable algebras over RR. My spidey senses tell me that for a separable algebra AA we should have A/[A,A]Z(A)A/[A,A] \cong Z(A), so if it's also central we get A/[A,A]Z(A)RA/[A,A] \cong Z(A) \cong R. But I only know for sure that A/[A,A]Z(A)A/[A,A] \cong Z(A) in the case of separable (or more generally semisimple) algebras over a field.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:45):

Hello all! Earlier this month @John Baez told me about this discussion and asked me some questions. So here I am! John asked specifically if I can come up with some string diagram proofs of the equivalence between various definitions of Azumaya object. One barrier to doing that is that I had to figure out how the proof goes again! I'm pleasantly surprised my 2014 paper on this [Joh14] is finding some use, but it's been long enough that I'm a little annoyed at how some of it is written.

So, to make myself feel better, I figured out what I think is a better explanation of the key step. I still don't know how to make string diagrams for the proof (and I have some doubts about whether it's possible) but I thought at least I could explain the non-string proof here in case someone else wants to try.

(Warning: I'm about to paste in a bunch of comments; apologies to anyone that I'm inadvertently annoying!)

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:46):

Here's the setup: Suppose M is a symmetric monoidal bicategory with two additional features. (1) a closed structure, and (2) an autonomous structure. Autonomous means that there is an (-)^{op} operation that switches source/target of 1-cells, like taking op of a category or regarding a left A-module as a right A^{op} module. (I don't think this is enough explanation for someone who isn't familiar with this stuff, but I'm going to skip it unless someone would like me to say more.)

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:47):

I'll write the monoidal product of M with a dot, like A.B, just for ease of reading and typing. We'll also need composition of 1-cells, and I'll write that as juxtaposition, like FG = F \circ G. One of the decisions I now find annoying in that 2014 paper is that I used "diagrammatic composition"; I'm not going to do that here. So, in this explanation, FG means first apply G, and then F.

I'll write k for the monoidal unit of M. I'll also pretend that the unit constraints for k are identities. I don't love doing that, but I think I won't type the rest of this if I have to work out the unit stuff carefully. (There will be some other points where I'll have to be a bit glib; apologies in advance.)

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:48):

For an object A of M, I'll say A is invertible as a 0-cell if there exists an object B such that A.B is equivalent (in the bicategorical sense) to k. This means there are 1-cells P: A.B → k and R: k → A.B with PR and RP being isomorphic to the respective identities. (I think some people call this Morita-invertible or something like that, because that's what it means in the classical algebra case. I called it Eilenberg-Watts equivalence in [Joh14].)

I'll denote the unit 1-cell of A as 1 or 1_A. The autonomous structure also lets us regard 1_A as a 1-cell k → A.A^{op}, and I'll write [A] for that. (There is also the other-sided version, which I thankfully won't have to use.)

The central/separable definition of Azumaya algebras is equivalent to [A] being invertible as a 1-cell. That means there is another 1-cell T: A.A^{op} → k such that [A]T and T[A] are isomorphic to the respective identities. I confess I didn't read all of the above discussion carefully, but I think that's the part that people have been figuring out.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:48):

I know there's a lot more to say about invertibility and adjoint invertibility, and how the presence of a closed structure interacts with that, but I'm skipping it (a) because some of that is discussed above, (b) it's more than I want to write now, and (c) I don't think it's the key step.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:51):


The Key Step I want to explain here is this: If A is invertible as a 0-cell, then [A] is invertible as a 1-cell. In [Joh14] this is the implication (v) ⇒ (i) for Theorem 1.6, and there are two paragraphs about it on page 14. Here, I want to split the explanation into three lemmas.

All of the lemmas refer to 1-cells in M:

F:kCG:Ck.F: k \to C \qquad G: C \to k.

Only the middle lemma uses the autonomous structure of M, and none of them use the closed structure. (That's needed for connecting to the other ways of defining Azumaya.)

I can add proofs of these lemmas if there is interest. but for now I'll just give the gist of the argument.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:54):

Lemma 0 (Eckmann-Hilton)
Consider the composite FG:CkCFG: C \to k \to C. There is an isomorphism

FG(1C.G)(F.1C)FG \cong (1_C . G) (F . 1_C)

(Note: this isn't exactly correct as stated, because the right-hand side doesn't have the same source/target as the left hand side; so there are some implicit unit constraints here. But this isomorphism is the main thing.)
A more precise version is Lemma 3.2 in [Joh14].

Proof idea: basically it's pseudofunctoriality of the monoidal product in M.

Lemma 1
Suppose FG1CFG \cong 1_C. Then F.Gop[C]F.G^{op} \cong [C].

Proof idea: This is basically a duality argument that (I think) is standard at least in some circles. It involves tracking the isomorphism in the hypothesis through the equivalence M(C,C)M(k.kop,C.Cop)M(C,C) \simeq M(k.k^{op}, C.C^{op}).
(Then there is also more unit stuff k.kopkk.k^{op} \cong k, that I am again skipping.)

Lemma 2
If (F,G)(F,G) is an invertible pair of 1-cells between kk and CC, and if FYXF \cong YX for some 1-cells

X:kDY:DCX: k \to D \qquad Y: D \to C

Then (X,GY)(X,GY) is an invertible pair of 1-cells between kk and DD.

Proof idea: Lemma 2 is the most involved one. The isomorphism GYX1kGYX \cong 1_k is just associativity plus GF1kGF \cong 1_k. The isomorphism XGY1DXGY \cong 1_D is basically the long chain of isomorphisms displayed on page 14 of [Joh14]. It uses the Eckmann-Hilton lemma plus some psuedofunctoriality of 1D.1_D . -, associativity, more unit stuff, and FG1CFG \cong 1_C. (I got a little stuck on this at first because I thought I needed Eckmann-Hilton twice, but it's just once, at the beginning.)

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:55):


Now the Key Step I mentioned above is easy to explain. I tried to use the notation of [Joh14] where possible, in case that's useful for someone. If A is invertible as a 0-cell, then we have

P:A.BkR:kA.BP: A.B \to k \qquad R: k \to A.B

with

PR1kRP1A.B.PR \cong 1_k \qquad RP \cong 1_{A.B}.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:56):

Let Q=R.PopQ = R.P^{op} and S=P.RopS = P.R^{op}. Then by Lemma 1 we have

S=P.Rop[A.B]S = P.R^{op} \cong [A.B]

Next, observe

[A.B](1A.Aop.[B])[A]:kA.AopA.Aop.B.Bop.[A.B] \cong (1_{A.A^{op}} . [B])\, [A] : k \to A.A^{op} \to A.A^{op}.B.B^{op}.

(Again I'm being a little glib, since the target of [A.B] is A.B.(A.B)opA.B.(A.B)^{op}, so one needs some symmetries here too.)

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:57):

Now use Lemma 2, with X=AX = A and Y=1A.Aop.[B]Y = 1_{A.A^{op}} . [B]. The conclusion is that ([A],T)([A],T) is an invertible pair, with T=GY=Q(1A.Aop.[B])T = GY = Q \,(1_{A.A^{op}} . [B]).

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 18:59):

That's basically the end of the explanation, but I can add more if someone would like. As I said above, I don't really know how to make string diagrams for these, but it seems like the Lemmas would be the key place to start trying.

Oh, edit to add: Why don't I know how to make string diagrams for these? I'm familiar with some string diagrams where adjacent strings mean composition of 1-cells, and some others where adjacent strings mean monoidal products in a 1-category (which is also composition of 1-cells in the associated 1-object bicategory). But I don't know about diagrams where one can show both composition and a separate monoidal product. Maybe something more in the realm of surface diagrams is needed, or some fancier string diagrams that I don't know about.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 19 2023 at 21:04):

Thanks a lot! Don't worry about writing too much: it's very easy for people here to "mute" threads they don't want to read.

It will take me a while to absorb what you wrote! For starters, am I correct that now you're using "autonomous" to mean what's also called "compact closed"? Mike Stay (for example) wrote a paper on compact closed symmetric monoidal bicategories, and I thought your paper was working in that context.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 21:18):

John Baez said:

For starters, am I correct that now you're using "autonomous" to mean what's also called "compact closed"? Mike Stay (for example) wrote a paper on compact closed symmetric monoidal bicategories, and I thought your paper was working in that context.

Oh, I think autonomous is probably what Mike Stay called compact. I got the term from Day-Street Monoidal Bicategories and Hopf Algebroids, and it means that every object is dualizable (in the weak sense). Looking back at their paper now, I wonder if some or all of my lemmas are in there somewhere.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 21:19):

(I don't have any preference for the term autonomous; it's just what I wrote in the paper, so I'm using it here, but compact seems more catchy)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 19 2023 at 21:24):

Okay, thanks! For some reason I forgot you used "autonomous" in the paper. Yes, Street has generally used that word where others use "compact".

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 19 2023 at 21:27):

You're right that a key thing I wanted, and want, to figure out is why A is invertible as a 0-cell     \iff [A] is invertible as a 1-cell.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 21:29):

Yeah; I think that's the hard part. Or, maybe difficulty is relative, but it's the part that is not quite as formal as the others.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 19 2023 at 21:31):

So I will carefully read your proof sketch for this! Perhaps a "string diagram" proof is too much to hope for, but we might get a "purely equational" proof - i.e. a concrete construction of an inverse for [A] from an inverse for A, and vice versa, where we can check that the inverses work simply by manipulating equations. It looks like you're doing this, at least for one half of this     \iff.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 19 2023 at 21:45):

Yeah, I think that's right. I didn't do the other direction here because at some point I thought it was pretty straightforward. But we can think about that too after this part.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 19 2023 at 22:37):

Okay! It will take me a little while to do this... I'll get back to you here. Thanks again!

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 20 2023 at 05:57):

Re: compact closed vs autonomous, I think a compact closed (bi)category is always symmetric monoidal, but at least some of the papers by Day, Street, etc. use "autonomous" to mean a non-symmetric monoidal bicategory with both left and right duals.

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 20 2023 at 06:03):

Re: string diagrams, I know Bartlett has used a syntax for monoidal bicategories where the strings denote the objects and 1-cells as in a monoidal bicategory, and the 2-cells relate different "pages" of these diagrams. But a fully geometric syntax for monoidal bicategories would indeed involve surface diagrams. Street had some attempts in that direction in "Functorial calculus in monoidal bicategories". More recently the folks behind [[homotopy.io]] have a higher-dimensional syntax that can be manipulated and sliced in different directions.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 04:17):

Okay, I've been proving the Lemmas using surface diagrams, or more precisely movies of string diagrams. Right now I'm stuck on Lemma 2, but I feel my calculus is expressive enough that I should be able to prove it, so either I've made a mistake or I'm just not seeing some trick I can use. Often quitting, going to bed, and trying the next day is the solution to such problems.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 04:20):

However I think I see a way to prove the Key Step: if A is invertible as a 0-cell, then [A] is invertible as a 1-cell. My proof seems a bit different than Niles', though it may boil down to the same thing in the end. I'll try to explain it tomorrow, and see if it makes sense. It amounts to combining various facts I like.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 11:33):

Great! Here's hoping you get unstuck :) And if you have a simple direct proof, that's even better. It should be simple, but there seems to be a lot of notation clutter in my attempts. (Which, I guess, is one of the things that string/surface calculus should really help with.)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 14:31):

Let me try outlining my alternative argument. It requires a bunch of facts that themselves take work to check, but seem important in their own right (if true :upside_down:).

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 14:58):

I'll assume we're in a compact closed bicategory; this is basically the same as your autonomous symmetric monoidal bicategory, with slight technical differences that are worth noting. A compact closed bicategory is a symmetric monoidal bicategory M where for every object A there exists a dual A*.

But let me explain: in any monoidal bicategory, a dual of an object A is an object B equipped with a unit

i:IABi : I \to A \otimes B

and counit

e:BAIe: B \otimes A \to I

satisfying the usual zigzag identities up to isomorphism.

(In Definition 4.11 here Mike Stay uses specified isomorphisms, the zigzagurators, which are required to obey some identities called the 'swallowtail coherence laws'. However Nick Gurski has shown (after Definition 2.3 in Biequivalences in tricategories) that these additional laws, which he calls the 'horizontal cusp laws', can be assumed without loss of generality: if the zigzagurators don't obey these laws we can systematically improve them so that they do. So, I will drop these coherence laws and treat the existence of the zigzagurator isomorphisms as a property, rather than incorporating them as part of the structure of a dual object. See Nick's discussion!)

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 15:00):

This concept of compact closed bicategory seems technically different from your concept of autonomous symmetric monoidal bicategory in that I'm taking the existence of a dual for each object as a property, while you seem to be incorporating a specific choice of a dual as part of the structure of an autonomous symmetric monoidal bicategory.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 15:03):

I think the extra flexibility of my approach may help me, but I believe it's "not a big deal" in the following sense:

Conjecture 1. Given two duals (B,iB,eB)(B, i_B, e_B) and (C,iC,eC)(C, i_C, e_C) of an object AA in a monoidal bicategory, there is a canonically defined equivalence between these duals, i.e. an equivalence f:BCf: B \to C compatible with the units and counits.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 15:05):

Sorry for the vagueness in this statement, but I realize that if I'm not careful I'll wind up writing a paper here. I'd rather just answer questions than fill in tons of details preemptively.

I'm calling this a Conjecture just to cover my ass; it's a bicategorical analogue of a well-known fact for monoidal categories, namely that any two duals of an object are canonically isomorphic. Probably someone has already proved this analogue somewhere. I'd like a reference!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 15:21):

I'll say an object BB is an inverse of an object AA in a symmetric monoidal bicategory BAB \otimes A is equivalent to the tensor unit II. Here I'm using symmetry merely to avoid the need to separately say ABIA \otimes B \simeq I as well.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 15:41):

Next, I'll use this nice result of Nick Gurski, which again is a generalization of a better-known fact for monoidal categories:

Theorem 2. If BB is an inverse of some object AA in a symmetric monoidal bicategory, then BB is a dual of AA: that is, there exists a unit

i:IABi: I \to A \otimes B

and counit

e:BAIe: B \otimes A \to I

obeying the zigzag identities up to isomorphism. Moreover ee and ii are equivalences.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 15:48):

The proof of this is Section 3 of Biequivalences in tricategories: since we know IABI \simeq A \otimes B and BAIB \otimes A \simeq I we can pick equivalences and then systematically improve them so that they obey the zigzag identities up to isomorphism.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 15:58):

I hadn't expected these preliminaries to be so long, but if you accept these things I believe it's easy to show

Key Step. An object AA in a symmetric monoidal bicategory has an inverse iff for some dual AA^* of AA the unit i:IAAi: I \to A \otimes A^* is an equivalence. In this case AA^\ast is an inverse of AA.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 16:00):

Proof.     \implies Suppose AA has an inverse BB. Then by Theorem 2, BB is a dual of AA and the unit i:IABi: I \to A \otimes B is a equivalence.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 16:02):

\Longleftarrow Suppose for some dual AA^\ast of AA the unit i:IAAi: I \to A \otimes A^\ast is an equivalence. Then AAAAIA^\ast \otimes A \simeq A \otimes A^\ast \simeq I so AA^\ast is an inverse of AA. \qquad \qquad :black_large_square:

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 16:03):

I think this proof of the key step is sufficiently satisfying to justify the longwinded methodological preliminaries!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 16:06):

In the same way we easily get another of @Niles Johnson's nice results:

Nice Result. An object AA in a symmetric monoidal bicategory has an inverse iff for some dual AA^* of AA the counit e:AAIe: A^\ast \otimes A \to I is an equivalence. In this case AA^\ast is an inverse of AA.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 16:13):

This is nice because in our motivating example - the bicategory of algebras, bimodules and bimodule homomorphisms - the unit i:IAAi: I \to A \otimes A^* is an equivalence iff AA is central and separable, while e:AAIe: A^\ast \otimes A \to I is an equivalence iff AA has two other nice properties:

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 18:06):

John Baez said:

Let me try outlining my alternative argument...

Great! I'm glad you mentioned that paper of Nick's. This is not the first time I've thought that I would have a better grasp on the things I'm trying to do if I understood that paper a lot more. I think I see some ways to connect our two versions, so I'll write that because I found it clarifying.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 18:07):

I agree your Conjecture 1 has got to be correct, and I'm not really worried about the property/structure distinction. I often have the feeling that I better understand what I'm actually doing in the structured version, but that's probably more a matter of taste and habit than anything else.

Reading your proof, I was confused because I thought what I called [A][A] was missing, but now I realize what I called [A][A] is what you called ii, or iAi_A. Then the thing I didn't give notation for, and said we wouldn't need (AA with the Aop.AA^{op}.A-module structure on the other side) is what you called ee or eAe_A.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 18:07):

I used my Lemma 1 to get P.Rop[A.B]iA.BP.R^{op} \simeq [A.B] \simeq i_{A.B}, where the equivalences are symmetries that rearrange the AA, BB, AopA^{op}, and BopB^{op}. A dual version would give Q=R.PopeA.BQ = R.P^{op} \simeq e_{A.B}. (I'm skipping all the symmetry stuff because, as you said, it starts feeling like one is writing too much!)

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 18:08):

At some point earlier you asked about a specific formula for the inverse TT of [A]=iA[A] = i_A. Here's what I think it is in both notations, where I'm writing Ae=A.AopA^e = A.A^{op} and β\beta denotes a symmetry equivalence.

Ae1Ae.[B]Ae.BeβA.B.Aop.BopP.RopkA^e \xrightarrow{1_{A^e}.[B]} A^e.B^e \xrightarrow{\beta} A.B.A^{op}.B^{op} \xrightarrow{P.R^{op}} k

or (with a different symmetry β\beta)

Ae1Ae.iBAe.Beβ(A.B)op.A.B.eA.BkA^e \xrightarrow{1_{A^e}.i_B} A^e.B^e \xrightarrow{\beta} (A.B)^{op}.A.B. \xrightarrow{e_{A.B}} k

So, in this formula, the inverse TT is basically made from iBi_B and eA.Be_{A.B}.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 18:09):

From this point of view, I guess the Key Step seems to be saying that (iA.B,eA.B)(i_{A.B},e_{A.B}) is a pair of inverse equivalences if and only if both (iA,eA)(i_A,e_A) and (iB,eB)(i_B,e_B) are such. Is that really right?! It seems a bit surprising, but I guess the point is that (waving hands and squinting) we have things like iA.B(iA).(iB)((1.iB)iA)i_{A.B} \cong (i_A).(i_B) \cong ((1.i_B)\circ i_A), and similarly for ee.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 18:10):

(I'm probably slipping back into my "structured" way of thinking here, but hopefully you get the idea ;)
Oh, I just realized you had been writing AA^* etc. where I wrote AopA^{op}; I meant to use the stars but I forgot!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 18:24):

Yes, I wrote \ast just because that's a common name for duals and quicker than to type than op, and yes, I wrote i:IAAi: I \to A \otimes A^* for your [A], maybe because I was not wanting to suggest there's a single chosen such morphism given A.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 18:40):

At some point in the past I was confused by * because there are duals at two different levels here (algebras/objects v.s. modules/1-cells). [Edit: I've just realized that in addition to being a bit silly, the question I had here is not entirely well-formed, so let's just ignore it.]

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 21:43):

Yes, I sort of like your use of kk to mean the unit object and AopA^{\text{op}} to mean the dual of an object. When I first saw that I thought it was a clever trick to get a paper on symmetric monoidal bicategories published in a traditional algebra journal. :upside_down: But it's true, there are two levels of dual here so maybe it's confusing to use \ast for both. Back when I writing a lot about nn-categories with duals I decided it was hopeless to make up a new kind of star for each level of duality. But with just two maybe I should do this.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 22:19):

Haha, well at that time I was trying harder to get traditional algebraists to be interested in my work. That was successful in at least one sense (I was told about it after being hired as a postdoc), but the paper didn't make it to an algebra journal.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jun 22 2023 at 22:19):

Regarding notation, I'd probably lean more in the direction of using * at all levels now, but that's provided I can distinguish between an object, it's unit 1-cell, and the related unit we've called iAi_A. In the more traditional algebra literature, those are all called A :/

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 22:21):

True, though some algebraists at least use RR{}_R R to mean a ring regarded as a left module of itself, and RRR_R and RRR{}_R R {}_R to mean two other things.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 22 2023 at 22:23):

When category theorists get too tired to talk about math they talk about notation. This morning I figured out a nice proof of the Key Step but now I'm just talking about notations for bimodules. :upside_down:

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jul 03 2023 at 05:26):

I don't know if this is relevant, but there's a new paper on the arXiv by Coquand, Lombardi, and Neuwirth called Constructive Remarks on Azumaya Algebra. The abstract says:

We study etale topology and the notion of Azumaya algebra over a commutative ring constructively. As an application of the syntactic version of Barr's Theorem, we show the equivalence between two definitions of Azumaya algebra.

view this post on Zulip Niles Johnson (Jul 04 2023 at 02:05):

Oh, cool; I'll have to check it out

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jul 04 2023 at 14:31):

Nice, thanks! Though I'm more of a destructive mathematician myself.