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Stream: theory: categorical probability

Topic: exponentiable measurable spaces


view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (May 22 2025 at 11:11):

Is it known if there are some measurable spaces EE for which XEX^E always exists? Or at least, is it known whether some XEX^E exists? e.g. EE discrete works afaiu, anything else?

view this post on Zulip Morgan Rogers (he/him) (May 22 2025 at 12:06):

What are the measurable sets of XEX^E when EE is uncountably infinite and discrete?

view this post on Zulip Paolo Perrone (May 22 2025 at 13:15):

It is well known that already for 2R2^\mathbb{R}, the evaluation map is not measurable. [Aumann '61]

view this post on Zulip Paolo Perrone (May 22 2025 at 13:18):

It is also known that measurable spaces are monoidal closed, for a different monoidal structure than the cartesian one (giving separately and not jointly measurable functions).
However the Giry monad is not strong for that monoidal structure (the strength on uncountable spaces is not measurable). [Sato '16]

view this post on Zulip Paolo Perrone (May 22 2025 at 13:20):

Morgan Rogers (he/him) said:

What are the measurable sets of XEX^E when EE is uncountably infinite and discrete?

If by XEX^E we mean the product σ\sigma-algebra, then it is generated by sets in the form eEAe\prod_{e\in E} A_e where AeA_e is a measurable subset of XX, and moreover Ae=XA_e=X for all but a countable number of ee.

view this post on Zulip Paolo Perrone (May 22 2025 at 13:24):

This failure of exponentiability, similar to what happens with differentiable manifolds, is what leads to quasi-Borel spaces.

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (May 27 2025 at 07:38):

alas