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Stream: theory: categorical probability

Topic: Sheaves and probability


view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 14 2023 at 15:38):

A sheaf on some topological space formalizes the idea of local data that we can glue to obtain global data. It's also useful to be able to do this in the real world. For instance you want to obtain an idea of the mean temperature on the Earth by picking up the temperature in a finite number of points on the earth. But you can't hope to obtain the exact mean temperature like this, only an approximation and your thermometers also give you only an approximation of the temperature around the thermometer. So, I've been wondering if you can define some "probabilistic sheaf" that will formalize this situation.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (May 14 2023 at 17:47):

I'm also interested in this kind of thing! The application I have in mind is medical imaging. In medical imaging, we make a lot of partial measurements - maybe these can be formalized as "local data". For example, in ultrasound imaging, we observe many small parts of the total ultrasonic response by using an array of sensors, so each sensor observes that data at one location in space. Forming an estimate of a "global" response - the entire ultrasound response produced over an entire sphere - that is consistent with each local observation, could potentially be a nice step on the way to making good images.

Here are the titles of a couple papers possibly related to this topic, although I have not read them yet. "Sheaves as a Framework for Understanding and Interpreting Model Fit" (Kvinge et al.) and "Sheaves are the canonical data structure for sensor integration" (Robinson).

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 14 2023 at 18:54):

Thanks, these papers look very interesting!

view this post on Zulip Martti Karvonen (May 14 2023 at 21:27):

This vaguely reminds me of the sheaf-theoretic approach to contextuality in QM. In a sense, there the point is that probabilities fail to form a sheaf: if you have a matching family of probability distributions, it might not glue to a global joint distribution. Moreover we do see this kind of data in nature. Here's a decent entry-point to this.

view this post on Zulip Joe Moeller (May 15 2023 at 17:30):

unrelated to the topic, but this funny mistake is in that paper you linked:
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view this post on Zulip John Baez (May 15 2023 at 21:46):

So now people will start referring to the "Open-Access theorem".

view this post on Zulip Ryan Wisnesky (May 15 2023 at 22:32):

such jokes are how the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cox–Zucker_machine was invented

view this post on Zulip Jean-Baptiste Vienney (May 15 2023 at 23:04):

that's an hilarious story