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Topic: zig-zag identity as Feynman diagram


view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Nov 24 2020 at 16:51):

I just noticed that the usual zigzag identities could have a physical interpretation as Feynman diagrams. I guess this is nothing new since the nLab cites at least two papers where Feynman diagrams are introduced as graphical calculus for a monoidal category, but I'm posting it anyway because I think it's neat :laughing:
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There is a question, by the way: the identity doesn't look quite right. There's no photon on the right side! Plus, the electron and the photon switch position in the interaction, is this irrelevant o ar Feynman diagrams commutative (as in commutative monoidal, i.e. braiding = 1)?

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Nov 24 2020 at 16:54):

These are the zigzag identities of a rigid monoidal category

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Nov 24 2020 at 16:54):

Well, this is one of them

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Nov 24 2020 at 17:14):

The problem with the zig-zag identities is this. In the category of representations of U(1), the electron and the positron are dual objects and the photon is isomorphic to the unit object, so you can cross out those photon lines in the zigzag diagram.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Nov 24 2020 at 17:16):

But this is not true in the category of representations of the Poincare group: the electron and the positron are both "positive-energy" representations, so they can't be dual. In more physical language: since the electron and positive both have positive energy, they can't annihilate and turn into nothing without violating conservation of energy! They must turn into something else... like a photon.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Nov 24 2020 at 17:17):

More generally: antiparticles aren't really dual to particles as representations of the Poincare group. But they are as representations of certain other groups, like U(1). Or in physics language: antiparticles don't have the opposite energy from their corresponding particles. But they do have the opposite charge.

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Nov 24 2020 at 17:19):

Thanks John! What's the difference between U(1) and Poincarè's group?

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Nov 24 2020 at 17:20):

I mean, what's the physical interpretation?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Nov 24 2020 at 17:25):

I'm not quite sure what you want to know so I'll just say some random stuff. Symmetries correspond to conserved quantities via Noether's theorem. U(1) is the group of symmetries whose corresponding conserved quantity is charge. The Poincare group is the symmetry group whose corresponding conserved quantities are energy, momentum, angular momentum and the velocity of the center of mass. U(1) is 1-dimensional so it gives 1 conserved quantity; the Poincare group is 10-dimensional so it gives 10.