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Stream: community: discussion

Topic: zulip user friendliness


view this post on Zulip Nina Otter (Jun 03 2020 at 19:32):

I am new to Zulip, and I second the comment @Merrick Hua made earlier about Zulip not being too intuitive. Maybe it's just a matter of getting used to it (I am familiar with Slack), but I think that this is something we might want to address to make it more inclusive.

view this post on Zulip Tom Leinster (Jun 03 2020 at 19:34):

Me too. I guess if I spent more time here I'd get used to Zulip's ways, and figure out how to change the settings to my preference, but for now I'm with Merrick and Nina.

view this post on Zulip Christian Williams (Jun 03 2020 at 19:39):

Yes, we're going to make a webpage with a guide to the server, as well as our code of conduct and some resources. Sorry that we haven't done this yet; but there are people who want to help in #general: meta. For now, there's a simple overview at https://categorytheory.zulipchat.com/#narrow/stream/229111-general/topic/guide.2Fwelcome/near/191513308

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 03 2020 at 19:42):

Having spent about 20 minutes to an hour a day on Zulip I can promise it's a lot of fun when you get used to it.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 03 2020 at 19:43):

It's good for "chatting about lots of stuff" in parallel streams, so you can chat about one thing and see another message has shown up on another topic and hop over to that, etc.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 03 2020 at 19:43):

This makes it extremely engaging, esp. if you're quarantined.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 03 2020 at 19:44):

For the first few days I thought it was weird.

view this post on Zulip Reid Barton (Jun 03 2020 at 19:58):

Topics also make it more practical to have discussions that take place over a span of many hours or even days, which is important when participants are distributed across many time zones.

view this post on Zulip Morgan Rogers (he/him) (Jun 04 2020 at 10:17):

This seems like a good place to propose that a conciseness guideline be included in the guidelines are being drawn up.
It was noted early on in Zulip that a few people (including myself) found themselves very comfortable here, and so there developed a very vocal minority. While this has generated some interesting in-depth conversation, it has not left the space for new or less adept users to easily pick up and join discussions.
As an admin, I would like to be able to point to a guideline about "conciseness as consideration towards other users" when someone feels the need to personally address every point that other users in a discussion have made. This is typically not done in a bad spirit (although there are exceptions), so I haven't had good grounds to discourage over-engagement before now.