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Stream: deprecated: logic

Topic: Bounded quantification over postulated sets


view this post on Zulip Nikolaj Kuntner (Mar 16 2023 at 23:56):

In something like plain ZF, and in particular without extending the language, if P(x)P(x) is a Δ0\Delta_0-formula, is
(xω).P(x)\forall(x\in\omega). P(x),
(short for x.(xω)P(x)\forall x. (x\in\omega)\to P(x)) also a Δ0\Delta_0-formula?
And if so, how's it justified? I mean even if "ω\omega" can be specified by a Δ0\Delta_0-formula formula FirstInf(w)\mathrm{FirstInf}(w), and also if "xωx\in\omega" is provably equivalent to a Δ0\Delta_0-formula FinNum(x)\mathrm{FinNum}(x) in the theory, then I still only get a rewriting of the proposition in the form w.FirstInf(w)(xw).P(x)\forall w. \mathrm{FirstInf}(w)\to \forall(x\in w). P(x) resp. x.FinNum(x)P(x)\forall x. \mathrm{FinNum}(x)\to P(x), which are not technically of a bounded form.
If there's no rewriting that makes it evident, maybe one can speak in terms of parameters ("(xω).P(x)\forall(x\in\omega). P(x)" with ω\omega denoting a mere set parameter is Δ0\Delta_0). But for systems like MacLane's or Kripke–Platek set theory, where the classification is relevant, this seems to make the book-keeping of the proof calculus complicated. I come to the question because I think arithmetical formulas with quantifiers over the naturals are considered Δ0\Delta_0 in the set theory model context. Generally, if I express an only arithmetical statement with quantifiers in set theory in full, I must account for ω\omega one way or the other.