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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: organizing related cones


view this post on Zulip David Egolf (Dec 01 2024 at 20:45):

Let D:J[Cop,Set]D:J \to [C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}] be a JJ-shaped diagram of presheavevs, where JJ is a small category. And let us assume that we have a cone under DD with tip X:CopSetX:C^{\mathrm{op}} \to \mathsf{Set}.

Intuitively, for each cCopc \in C^{\mathrm{op}}, we can evaluate our diagram DD at cc, and get a diagram in Set\mathsf{Set}. So we should have some functor Dt:Cop[J,Set]D^t:C^{\mathrm{op}} \to [J, \mathsf{Set}]. Similarly, by evaluating our cone at any cc we get a cone under Dt(c)D^t(c) with tip X(c)X(c). So we have a bunch of related cones.

I suspect that we can organize the tips of these cones using a functor X:Cop[J,Set]X':C^{\mathrm{op}} \to [J, \mathsf{Set}]. This functor acts on objects by sending cc to the JJ-shaped diagram constant at X(c)X(c).

Can we form a natural transformation from DtD^t to XX'?

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (Dec 01 2024 at 20:48):

(For context, if this works out as I hope, I'll be able to finish showing how we can take a colimit of a diagram of presheaves!)

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (Dec 01 2024 at 22:17):

Perhaps a simpler way to ask this question is this:

We have a bijection Cat(J,[Cop,Set])Cat(J×Cop,Set)\mathsf{Cat}(J, [C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}]) \cong \mathsf{Cat}(J \times C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}). Can this bijection be upgraded to an isomorphism or equivalence of functor categories?

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (Dec 01 2024 at 22:21):

If this can be upgraded to an isomorphism or equivalence of categories, then I can hope for the existence of a functor F:Cat(J,[Cop,Set])Cat(J×Cop,Set)Cat(Cop×J,Set)Cat(Cop,[J,Set])F:\mathsf{Cat}(J, [C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}]) \to \mathsf{Cat}(J \times C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}) \to \mathsf{Cat}(C^{\mathrm{op}} \times J, \mathsf{Set}) \to \mathsf{Cat}(C^{\mathrm{op}}, [J, \mathsf{Set}]) that is witness to an isomorphism or equivalence.

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (Dec 01 2024 at 22:22):

Hint: show that, for any closed monoidal category, there is an isomorphism [XY,Z][X,[Y,Z]][X \otimes Y, Z] \cong [X, [Y, Z]], i.e. the "external" tensor-hom adjunction can be represented "internally".

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (Dec 01 2024 at 22:26):

Thanks for the hint! I was just noticing Proposition 3.1 in this nlab article, which I think covers this point. Maybe I'll give a try at proving the statement you just gave though, before reading the nLab proof!

view this post on Zulip Peva Blanchard (Dec 01 2024 at 22:29):

A cone under DD with tip XX can be described as a family of morphisms

ιjc:D(j)(c)X(c)\iota_{jc} : D(j)(c) \to X(c)

It is natural in cc, meaning that that for every fixed jj, the sub-family (ιjc)c(\iota_{jc})_c is a natural transformation from D(j)D(j) to XX.

It is also natural in jj, meaning that for every fixed cc, the sub-family μc=(ιjc)j\mu_c = (\iota_{jc})_j is a natural transformation from D(_)(c)=Dt(c)D(\_)(c) = D^t(c) to the constant functor X(c)X'(c) on JJ with value X(c)X(c).

To answer your first question, I think the family μ=(μc)c\mu = (\mu_c)_c defines a natural transformation from DtD^t to XX'.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (Dec 01 2024 at 22:32):

Thanks @Peva Blanchard ! Thanks to the comments in this thread, I now have two promising approaches for solving my problem, instead of zero :tada:! I'll plan to work on exploring these approaches tomorrow.

view this post on Zulip Peva Blanchard (Dec 01 2024 at 22:42):

So the natural transformation amounts to the commutativity of this diagram
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Unfolding the fact these arrows are natural transformations, we obtain the diagrams
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view this post on Zulip Peva Blanchard (Dec 01 2024 at 22:44):

David Egolf said:

Thanks Peva Blanchard !

you welcome :smile:

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (Dec 02 2024 at 19:40):

I've made some good progress on understanding this stuff today, but I'm not quite ready to type up here what I have. Hopefully I'll get there soon!