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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: inverse of inverse


view this post on Zulip Leopold Schlicht (Dec 03 2021 at 17:05):

First question: Let ff and gg be two parallel 1-morphisms in a quasicategory. Then ff is homotopic to gg if and only if gg is homotopic to ff. (Recall: ff is homotopic to gg if there is a 2-morphism/homotopy from ff to gg.) Consider your favorite proof of that fact. Extract from that proof a map
()1 ⁣:{homotopies from f to g}{homotopies from g to f},σσ1.(-)^{-1}\colon \{\text{homotopies from }f\text{ to }g\}\to\{\text{homotopies from }g\text{ to }f\}, \sigma\mapsto \sigma^{-1}.
Is that map a bijection "on the nose" in the sense that (σ1)1(\sigma^{-1})^{-1} is equal to σ\sigma or only up to some form of equivalence of homotopies? (How to define that notion of "equivalence" of homotopies?)

On the one hand, since this is "higher category theory" I would expect the answer to be "up to equivalence". On the other hand, if ff and gg are paths in a space with the same endpoints, then there is an on-the-nose bijection between homotopies from ff to gg and homotopies from gg to ff: given a homotopy H ⁣:[0,1]2XH\colon [0,1]^2\to X from ff to gg, the construction (x,t)H(x,1t)(x,t)\mapsto H(x, 1-t) defines a homotopy H1H^{-1} from gg to ff (and vice versa). And then we have (H1)1=H(H^{-1})^{-1}=H on the nose.

Second question: One can show that ff is homotopic to gg in a quasicategory C\mathcal C if and only if ff is homotopic to gg in Cop\mathcal C^{\mathrm{op}}. Extract from the proof of that fact a map
{homotopies from f to g in C}{homotopies from f to g in Cop}.\{\text{homotopies from }f\text{ to }g\text{ in }\mathcal C\}\to\{\text{homotopies from }f\text{ to }g\text{ in }\mathcal C^{\mathrm{op}}\}.
Is that map a bijection on the nose, only up to equivalence, or none of that?

view this post on Zulip Reid Barton (Dec 03 2021 at 17:23):

So there are a couple issues with the premises of the question. The first one is that there is a map to be extracted from the proof of the fact. There isn't really one because the proof invokes the hypothesis that the input is a quasicategory to choose a solution to some filling problem, and there's no specified way to make this choice.

view this post on Zulip Reid Barton (Dec 03 2021 at 17:26):

The second one is that there isn't even an "inverse-ness" relation between σ\sigma and σ1\sigma^{-1}, because in order for σ1\sigma^{-1} to be an inverse to σ\sigma you also have to say how it is an inverse. (This already happens at the level of 1-morphisms as well: an inverse of f:xyf : x \to y is g:yxg : y \to x together with some additional data; at a minimum, a 2-morphism α:gf1\alpha : gf \simeq 1.)

view this post on Zulip Reid Barton (Dec 03 2021 at 17:32):

The better way to think about this kind of question is to consider a space (i.e. simplicial set) of homotopies, say H(f,g)H(f,g), whose 0-simplices we can presumably arrange to be your 2-simplices σ:fg\sigma : f \to g, and also a space I(f,g)I(f,g) consisting of triples σ:fg\sigma : f \to g, τ:gf\tau : g \to f, and coherence data that says that σ\sigma and τ\tau are inverse. Then construct a zigzag

H(f,g)p1I(f,g)p2H(g,f)H(f,g) \xleftarrow{p_1} I(f,g) \xrightarrow{p_2} H(g,f)

where p1p_1 and p2p_2 remember just σ\sigma, respectively τ\tau.

One then shows that p1p_1 and p2p_2 are acyclic Kan fibrations so that, if we want, we could choose a section s1s_1 of p1p_1 and consider the composite

H(f,g)s1I(f,g)p2H(g,f)H(f,g) \xrightarrow{s_1} I(f,g) \xrightarrow{p_2} H(g,f)

as a choice of your function "()1(-)^{-1}". However, there is nothing canonical about this choice. The well-determined notion is the span.

view this post on Zulip Leopold Schlicht (Dec 04 2021 at 18:11):

Thanks!
But I guess one can define maps on equivalence classes:

Are both of these maps ()1(-)^{-1} and ()op(-)^{\mathrm{op}} bijections?

view this post on Zulip Leopold Schlicht (Dec 04 2021 at 18:16):

Also, can one construct an \infty-category C\mathcal C in which there isn't a bijection
{homotopies from f to g in C}{homotopies from g to f in C}\{\text{homotopies from }f\text{ to }g\text{ in }\mathcal C\}\cong\{\text{homotopies from }g\text{ to }f\text{ in }\mathcal C\}
on the nose? As I said, for singular simplicial sets there should be such a bijection on the nose. That question is a bit artificial, but I'm curious nevertheless. (Same question in the other situation.)

view this post on Zulip Leopold Schlicht (Dec 17 2021 at 16:43):

Or are these questions again ill-defined? Then let me put it this way: Is the datum of a homotopy from ff to gg in C\mathcal C in some sense equivalent to the datum of a homotopy from gg to ff in C\mathcal C? Also, is the datum of a homotopy from ff to gg in Cop\mathcal C^\mathrm{op} in some sense equivalent to the datum of a homotopy from ff to gg in C\mathcal C? If yes, in which sense? If no, why not?