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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: def Quillen bifunctor


view this post on Zulip Daniel Plácido (Jun 15 2021 at 13:36):

The definition of Quillen bifunctor at nLab (and everywhere else) isn't the most natural one - which to me would be a bifunctor F:C×DEF:C\times D\to E, where C,D,EC,D,E are model categories, such that F(c,)F(c,-) and F(,d)F(-,d) are left or right Quillen functors in each entrance. Is this idea anyhow equivalent to the actual definition? If not, why is the definition so clouded?

view this post on Zulip Zhen Lin Low (Jun 15 2021 at 14:29):

No. The definition is constructed so that the motivating examples satisfy the definition!

view this post on Zulip Mike Shulman (Jun 15 2021 at 14:38):

And so as to make it more useful.

view this post on Zulip Daniel Plácido (Jun 15 2021 at 20:41):

ok, makes sense, thanks! I was wondering because iirc X×():TopTopX\times (-):\mathsf{Top}\to\mathsf{Top} is left Quillen

view this post on Zulip Reid Barton (Jun 15 2021 at 21:48):

It's not left Quillen unless XX is cofibrant, because a left Quillen functor has to preserve cofibrant objects but X×=XX \times * = X. (I'm assuming you're using the standard model structure on Top, in which not every object is cofibrant.)