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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: What's this operation on relations called?


view this post on Zulip Mike Stay (Nov 03 2020 at 19:50):

What's it called when S(a,b)T(f(a),g(b))?S(a,b) \Rightarrow T(f(a), g(b))? The relation SS doesn't imply TT directly, but this more restrictive implication. Does it have a name?

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Nov 03 2020 at 19:52):

If you had an "iff" I'd say the relation SX×YS \subseteq X \times Y is the pullback of the relation TX×YT \subseteq X' \times Y' along the map f×g:X×YX×Yf \times g : X \times Y \to X' \times Y'.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Nov 03 2020 at 19:53):

But since you just have an "if-then", I'd say SS implies the pullback (f×g)T(f \times g)^\ast T.

view this post on Zulip Mike Stay (Nov 03 2020 at 20:03):

Thanks! I guess it's a kind of morphism between spans where the feet don't have to match: not a map of spans or a span of spans, but the notion of morphism you'd get from the "multisorted theory of a span". The theory has three objects X, Y, Z and two morphisms f:XYf:X\to Y and g:XZg:X\to Z. "Homomorphism" of spans? The relation case would be restricting to "jointly monic spans".

view this post on Zulip sarahzrf (Nov 05 2020 at 08:15):

that's a square in the double category of relations and functions

view this post on Zulip sarahzrf (Nov 05 2020 at 08:17):

(so, a special case of a square in the double category of spans)