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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: Motivation for modal HoTT


view this post on Zulip Madeleine Birchfield (Mar 21 2025 at 17:12):

One of my motivations for learning modal HoTT is the ability to do (,1)(\infty,1)-category theory without having to deal with model categories or simplicial enrichment or whatever. The hope here is that eventually the theory gets developed enough that I am able to define the (,1)(\infty,1)-topos of (,1)(\infty,1)-sheaves on the (,1)(\infty,1)-site of Cartesian spaces and smooth functions Sh(,1)(CartSpsmooth)\mathrm{Sh}_{(\infty,1)}(\mathrm{CartSp}_\mathrm{smooth}), and use the resulting (,1)(\infty,1)-topos as an environment in which to do physics.

view this post on Zulip Chris Grossack (she/they) (Mar 21 2025 at 17:13):

Sure, but where does the modality come in? I'm already sold on HoTT and special-purpose variants being useful as an internal logic for various (oo,1)-topoi, and this is hugely influential in how I think about oo-categories... I'm curious what exactly the modalities buy you, but maybe I should spend more time reading the nlab since the answer is probably in there somewhere

view this post on Zulip Madeleine Birchfield (Mar 21 2025 at 17:16):

Chris Grossack (she/they) said:

Sure, but where does the modality come in? I'm already sold on HoTT and special-purpose variants being useful as an internal logic for various (oo,1)-topoi, and this is hugely influential in how I think about oo-categories... I'm curious what exactly the modalities buy you, but maybe I should spend more time reading the nlab since the answer is probably in there somewhere

In simplicial / triangulated type theory, they need modalities to construct the opposite (,1)(\infty,1)-category, the twisted arrow (,1)(\infty,1)-category, and the amazing right adjoint, as well as the flat and shape modalities for the core (,1)(\infty,1)-category and localisation at the directed interval. Those modalities are needed to prove the Yoneda embedding and to construct the directed univalent universe of \infty-groupoids as an (,1)(\infty,1)-category, as well as the type of higher algebraic objects such as the type of coherent \infty-monoids and the type of spectra.

view this post on Zulip Madeleine Birchfield (Mar 21 2025 at 17:17):

See the two papers by Gratzer et al:

view this post on Zulip Madeleine Birchfield (Mar 21 2025 at 17:21):

I don't know how many of the modalities will actually be used in defining an (,1)(\infty,1)-topos of (,1)(\infty,1)-sheaves on some (,1)(\infty,1)-site and constructing the differential cohesion adjoint quadruples.

view this post on Zulip Madeleine Birchfield (Mar 21 2025 at 17:34):

We are probably going to use at least every modality used to construct the directed univalent universe of \infty-groupoids U\mathcal{U} as well as the opposite modality, since both are used in the definition of an (,1)(\infty,1)-presheaf F:SopUF:S^\mathrm{op} \to \mathcal{U}.

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view this post on Zulip Madeleine Birchfield (Mar 21 2025 at 19:57):

I moved the messages here because Sp(,1)(CartSpsmooth)\mathrm{Sp}_{(\infty,1)}(\mathrm{CartSp}_\mathrm{smooth}) only has smooth cohesion rather than differential cohesion.

view this post on Zulip Madeleine Birchfield (Mar 21 2025 at 20:00):

Apparently, one needs Sp(,1)(CartSpsynthdiff)\mathrm{Sp}_{(\infty,1)}(\mathrm{CartSp}_\mathrm{synthdiff}) for differential cohesion. The nLab says in [[CartSp]] that the site CartSpsynthdiff\mathrm{CartSp}_\mathrm{synthdiff} is the

full subcategory of the category of smooth loci on those of the form Rn×D\mathbb{R}^n \times D for DD an infinitesimal space (the formal dual of a Weil algebra)