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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: Left adjoints preserve left Kan extensions


view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 04 2026 at 15:52):

I was recently delighted to learn that not only do left adjoints preserve colimits, they in fact preserve all left Kan extensions! (I learned this from Riehl's book, "Categorical Homotopy Theory", on page 7).

If we have a functor F:JCF:J \to C which has a colimit, then its left Kan extension along P:J1P:J \to 1 (where 11 is a category with a single object and a single morphism) is in fact a colimit for FF. So, if I understand correctly, "left adjoints preserve colimits" is a nice special case of "left adjoints preserve left Kan extensions".

I am curious about other examples! What are some left Kan extensions (not corresponding to taking colimits), where it is interesting or useful to note that they are preserved by left adjoints?

view this post on Zulip Oscar Cunningham (Apr 04 2026 at 16:24):

A left adjoint is the Kan extension of identity along the right adjoint. So left adjoints preserve left adjoints.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 04 2026 at 17:48):

Thanks for pointing out that there is a close connection between adjoints and Kan extensions! That's quite interesting to know. However, the left adjoint corresponds to a right Kan extension, though, doesn't it?

Referencing "Categories for the Working Mathematician" (page 248):
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view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 04 2026 at 17:52):

However, I think right adjoints are closely related to certain left Kan extensions! Referencing Riehl's book again (on page 9):
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view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 04 2026 at 18:08):

At any rate, the kind of setup we have changes when we apply a left adjoint LL to the situation involving a left Kan extension associated to a right adjoint. In particular, after application of LL, we aren't contemplating a left Kan extension of an identity functor anymore:

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Here, L:CXL:C \to X is a left adjoint, and LanF(1C)\mathrm{Lan}_F(1_C) is a left Kan extension of 1C1_C along FF. When we apply LL to get a new left Kan extension (using the fact that left adjoints preserve left Kan extensions), we notice that the resulting left Kan extension is a left Kan extension of LL along FF (not of an identity functor along FF).

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 04 2026 at 18:13):

So I would assume this new left Kan extension doesn't describe a right adjoint anymore.

view this post on Zulip Peva Blanchard (Apr 05 2026 at 21:29):

David Egolf (he/him) said:

So, if I understand correctly, "left adjoints preserve colimits" is a nice special case of "left adjoints preserve left Kan extensions".

Actually, I think that, in some situations, the two statements are equivalent. If I remember correctly, a left Kan extension can be defined pointwise as a colimit, provided CC is, e.g., cocomplete.

left kan extension as pointwise colimit

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 06 2026 at 22:36):

Thanks for your comment!

I agree that (under certain conditions) the functor part of a left Kan extension can indeed be computed at each object as a colimit. It's not clear to me that preserving a left Kan extension then (under these conditions) corresponds to preserving some colimit, though.

view this post on Zulip Morgan Rogers (he/him) (Apr 07 2026 at 17:47):

That is an apparently stronger claim, but it turns out that the entire functor can be derived from the presentation in terms of colimits at the objects. That's a technical but potentially enlightening exercise.
It's also worth saying that there aren't so many Kan extensions we are able to construct outside of the nice pointwise cases, so you'll have to find someone experienced in the topic to give some examples.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 07 2026 at 18:44):

Here's the formula given in "Categorical Homotopy Theory", by Riehl:
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Riehl also gives this:
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view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 07 2026 at 18:44):

Riehl goes on to say that each formula encodes a "weighted colimit" of FF, which is a new term to me!

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 07 2026 at 18:46):

So, in this case, it sounds like one can think of a left Kan extension as a collection of colimits (one for each object it maps from). It would take me some more effort to understand what "left adjoints preserve left Kan extensions" tells us in this context.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 07 2026 at 18:49):

One might guess something like "left adjoints preserve certain collections of related colimits".

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 07 2026 at 19:00):

If I worked it out correctly, I think we should have: L(colim(FU:K/dCE))colim(L(FU))L(\mathrm{colim}(F \circ U:K/d \to C \to \mathcal{E})) \cong \mathrm{colim}(L \circ (F \circ U)) for each object dDd \in \mathcal{D}, where LL is some left adjoint functor mapping from E\mathcal{E}. So, indeed LL is preserving a colimit for each object of D\mathcal{D}.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 07 2026 at 19:09):

The colimits involved in a left Kan extension of FF are related in a certain way, given that they assemble to form a left Kan extension of FF. And the fact that LL preserves left Kan extensions means that it sends this collection of colimits to a collection of colimits which assemble to form a left Kan extension of LFL \circ F. One might wonder if there are applications in which the preservation of a relationship like this between colimits is useful.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Apr 07 2026 at 23:23):

Just two tiny points:

  1. When we do colimits in enriched categories, it's almost essential to use "weighted" colimits.

  2. Colimits resemble integrals, and weighted colimits resemble them even more. When we start out learning integrals we write f(x)dx\int f(x) dx but focus our attention on the f(x)f(x): the dxd x feels like an annoying thing the teacher makes us write down. Later we learn measure theory and write f(x)dμ(x)\int f(x) d\mu(x), and we learn that the function ff and measure dμd\mu are equally essential: integration is a way of pairing a function and a measure and getting a number. It turns out we had been blind to the measure's importance because the real line comes with a standard choice of measure. Similarly, when we do weighted colimits we learn that the "weight" is just as important as the diagram we are taking the colimit of. In the Set-enriched case we were blinded to its importance because there was a standard choice.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 09 2026 at 02:28):

That is interesting! It's intriguing to learn of that parallel.

Inspired by your post, I did some reading and attempted to better understand weighted colimits, but it felt difficult!

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 09 2026 at 02:31):

Attempting to make a connection with left Kan extensions:

Let F:CEF:C \to E (where EE is cocomplete) be a functor and y:C[Cop,Set]y:C \to [C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}] be the Yoneda embedding. Then the left Kan extension of FF along yy is given on objects as:

LanyF:WcC[Cop,Set](C(,c),W)F(c)\mathrm{Lan}_yF:W \mapsto \int^{c \in C}[C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}](C(-,c), W) \cdot F(c)

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 09 2026 at 02:34):

If it is safe to replace [Cop,Set](C(,c),W)[C^{\mathrm{op}}, \mathsf{Set}](C(-,c), W) with W(c)W(c) using the Yoneda lemma, we get:

LanyF:WcCW(c)F(c)\mathrm{Lan}_yF:W \mapsto \int^{c \in C} W(c) \cdot F(c)

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 09 2026 at 02:36):

But we also have that the weighted colimit of FF with respect to WW is given as colimWFcCW(c)F(c)\mathrm{colim}^W F \cong \int^{c \in C} W(c) \cdot F(c) ("Categorical Homotopy Theory" p. 84)!

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 09 2026 at 02:38):

If the above is true, it seems like the left Kan extension of a functor FF along the Yoneda embedding takes weighted colimits of FF! That is, it sends a "weighting" functor WW to the weighted colimit of FF with respect to WW.

view this post on Zulip David Egolf (he/him) (Apr 09 2026 at 03:38):

I think this can help me begin to understand why the weighting is so important. As a special case of the above, we can consider F:ΔTopF:\Delta \to \mathsf{Top} which sends a "combinatorial" simplex to the standard topological realization of that simplex. Then, the weighted colimit of FF with respect to a simplicial set XX is the "geometric realization" of XX!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Apr 09 2026 at 04:45):

That's a very good example. In a crude sense, we are "adding up" the standard topological realizations of simplices to get the geometric realization of X, and X serves as a weight telling us how many copies of each simplex we need. But X does more: it tells us how they're glued together.