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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: Is there a nice 2-category of matrices?


view this post on Zulip Peva Blanchard (Jun 08 2024 at 10:32):

I'm learning about adjunctions in 2-categories other than the 2-category of (small) categories.

From what I understand, a 1-cell f:XYf : X \rightarrow Y is a left adjoint to a 1-cell g:YXg: Y \rightarrow X when

I've been trying to define a 2-category of matrices so that adjunction would correspond to transposition, in vain. Or more precisely, I can't find a right definition for the 2-cells.

If I think of a matrix as a profunctor enriched in V=(R,,+,0)\mathcal{V} = (\mathbb{R}, \le, +, 0), then 2-cells would correspond to V\mathcal{V} natural transformations. Unfolding the definition, this means that there is a (unique) 2-cell ABA \Rightarrow B iff AijBijA_{ij} \le B_{ij} for all indices i,ji,j.

But this definition doesn't seem to yield an adjunction between a matrix AA and its transposition ATA^T.

Hence my question: is it possible to define a 2-category of matrices so that adjunction corresponds to transposition?

view this post on Zulip David Michael Roberts (Jun 08 2024 at 11:08):

The transpose of a matrix is more like the kind of structure a dagger category provides, in particular the dagger category of (finite-dimensional?) Hilbert spaces.
Or else it's more like working with an enriched category that is not a Cat-category. Maybe something like enriching over categories that are themselves enriched in something nearly degenerate, something like metric spaces? Just spitballing. It's late here, and I'm not thinking these suggestions through properly...

view this post on Zulip David Corfield (Jun 08 2024 at 11:18):

Perhaps not directly answering you, but there are some interesting related thoughts in this MO question.

view this post on Zulip Simon Burton (Jun 08 2024 at 13:06):

There's some discussion related to this here, section 2.6. Btw, I'll be talking about this paper at the upcoming ACT conference.

view this post on Zulip Simon Burton (Jun 08 2024 at 13:12):

And this talk by Todd Trimble discusses (at ~8:45) the 2-category of sets & relations, and what adjunctions look like there.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 08 2024 at 15:09):

A rather famous 2-category of with matrices as morphisms is the 2-category of [[Kapranov-Voevodsky 2-vector spaces]].

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 08 2024 at 15:10):

The objects of this 2-category are categories of the form Vectn\mathsf{Vect}^n, and the morphisms are m×nm \times n matrices of vector spaces, and the 2-morphisms are m×nm \times n matrices of linear maps.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 08 2024 at 15:12):

If we loosen up the definition to include are categories equivalent to Vectn\mathsf{Vect}^n, as we should, then any category of representations of a finite group is a Kapranov-Voevodsky 2-vector space.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Jun 08 2024 at 15:14):

We get the math of 2-vector spaces by taking the math of vector spaces replacing C\mathbb{C} (or your favorite field) by Vect\mathbf{Vect}, replacing ++ by \oplus, and replacing ×\times by \otimes. So we are 'categorifying' linear algebra.

The 2-category of 2-vector spaces, usually called 2Vect\mathbf{2Vect}, has the property you hint at: every 1-morphism has both a left and right adjoint.

view this post on Zulip Peva Blanchard (Jun 08 2024 at 16:52):

Great thank you all for the links!

view this post on Zulip Peva Blanchard (Jun 08 2024 at 16:59):

@Simon Burton I just noticed that you already shared your paper with me one or two months ago. But I think I am better equipped now to try reading it.