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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: Collection level interactions from individual interactions


view this post on Zulip Adittya Chaudhuri (Mar 15 2025 at 17:50):

I apologise priorly, if my question sounds a little vague. But I am searching for the right mathematical language to describe it.

Say, a game(like Soccer) is being played among nn teams T1,T2,TnT_1,T_2, \ldots T_n (unlike nn=2 as the usual case) in a huge play ground. A collection of audiances is watching and trying to analyse the game. Now, the audiance is seeing interaction among players (both intra and inter teams). Now, in a way after watching the game for a "sufficient period of time", audiances started making statements about "how each team interacts with other teams" (zooming out from the level of players). I am thinking of this analysis as an "emergence of collection level interactions" from a "family of individual level interactions".

Now, if we represent the "player level interactions"as a labeled directed graph , then the induced collection level interaction would be labeled directed hypergraph. I was thinking of a functorial (functorial upto certain factors) relationships between labeled directed graphs and labeled directed hypergraphs to describe "this sort of transition from individual interactions to collection level interactions".

Has there been any existing study in this direction? What could be a right mathematicial language to study such interactions?

I was also vaguely thinking about sheaves/stacks (if we want to relax the locally determined condition)-but not sure!!

Thanks in advance.

view this post on Zulip Morgan Rogers (he/him) (Mar 17 2025 at 08:25):

Concepts from "coarse geometry", which I learned about in a course on geometric group theory, come to mind. Roughly (unapologetic pun) the idea is to capture when things 'look the same from far away'

view this post on Zulip Adittya Chaudhuri (Mar 17 2025 at 09:57):

Interesting! Thank you @Morgan Rogers (he/him) . I am not familiar with this area of geometry. I will look into it.

view this post on Zulip Morgan Rogers (he/him) (Mar 17 2025 at 15:31):

It's not exactly what you asked for, in that coarse geometry is typically not expressed in a categorical language, and for good reason: it can he overly constraining to demand that the associations that you describe are functorial. See also (the earlier parts of) the discussion in #theory: philosophy about categorifying analogies, where spans of maps were considered: that might be the closest relevant categorical formalism for your situation.

view this post on Zulip Adittya Chaudhuri (Mar 17 2025 at 17:51):

Thank you so much @Morgan Rogers (he/him) for referrring to this super interesting discussion on categorifying analogies.

Little out of topic, but if we think of a directed graph G:=(V,E,s,t ⁣:EV)G:=(V, E, s,t \colon E \rightarrow V) as a way to describe "analogies/interrelations" between "set VV of vertices (here individuals)", then the span P(V)sEtP(V)P(V) \xleftarrow{s'} E' \xrightarrow{t'} P(V) , where PP is the covariant power set functor, representing a directed hypergraph, can be thought of as an analogy/interaction between a collection of individuals in VV.

I am interested in the construction of some examples of producing {P(V)sTETtTP(V)}T[0,K]\lbrace P(V) \xleftarrow{s'_{T}} E_{T}' \xrightarrow{t'_{T}} P(V) \rbrace_{T \in [0,K]} from the data {GT=(ET,V,sT,tT ⁣:ETV)}T[0,K] \lbrace G_{T}=(E_T, V, s_T, t_{T} \colon E_{T} \rightarrow V) \rbrace_{T \in [0,K]}, where TT is a time in the time interval [0,K],KR+[0,K], K \in \mathbb{R}^{+}. Here, I am excluding the trivial case: ET=ETE'_{T}=E_{T}, sT=sTs'_{T}=s_{T} and tT=tTt'_{T}=t_{T} for all TT.

view this post on Zulip Adittya Chaudhuri (Mar 18 2025 at 01:12):

If we define a directed hypergraph as a span P(V)sEtP(V)P(V) \xleftarrow{s} E \xrightarrow{t} P(V) in Set, where P(V)P(V) is the power set of VV, then, I think the covariant power-set functor P ⁣:SetSetP \colon Set \to Set (that takes a function to its image function) induces a functor F ⁣:GphHypGphF \colon Gph \to HypGph, where GphGph is the category of directed multigraphs and HypGphHypGph is the category of directed multi-hypergraphs, whose morphisms are the morphisms of spans. Hence, may be this is an example (but not so interesting from the perspective of my initial question),

{GT=(ET,V,sT,tT ⁣:ETV)}T[0,K]{F(GT)}T[0,K]={P(V)P(sT)P(ET)P(tT)P(V)}T[0,K]\lbrace G_{T}=(E_T, V, s_T, t_{T} \colon E_{T} \rightarrow V) \rbrace_{T \in [0,K]} \mapsto \lbrace F(G_{T})\rbrace_{T \in [0,K]}= \lbrace P(V) \xleftarrow{P(s_{T})} P(E_{T}) \xrightarrow{P(t_{T})} P(V) \rbrace_{T \in [0,K]}