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Stream: learning: questions

Topic: (ID my structure) dagger transpose double category


view this post on Zulip Nathaniel Virgo (Jul 07 2024 at 09:25):

A dagger category is a category C\mathcal{C} with an involutive identity-on-objects functor :CopC\dagger:\mathcal{C}^{op}\to \mathcal{C}.

A variation on this concept would be a strict double category C\mathbb{C} with an involutive identity-on-objects functor :CC\dagger : \mathbb{C}^\top\to\mathbb{C}, where {}^\top is the transpose operator, which swaps the horizontal and vertical morphisms.

So this a category where there are two kinds of morphism (horizontal and vertical), and each morphism has an adjoint, but the adjoint is always a morphism of the opposite kind.

Does this concept have a name, and are there any interesting known examples?

view this post on Zulip Bryce Clarke (Jul 07 2024 at 09:40):

This is an interesting idea. As far as I know, it doesn’t have a name. Can you see ordinary dagger categories as an example?

view this post on Zulip Nathaniel Virgo (Jul 07 2024 at 09:46):

Every dagger category gives rise to one of these things: for a dagger category C\mathcal{C}, form the double category C\mathbb{C} where the horizontal is C\mathcal{C}, the vertical one is Cop\mathcal{C}^{op} and for any given frame there is a unique square iff the frame commutes in C\mathcal{C}. Then there is a functor CC\mathbb{C}^\top\to\mathbb{C} that maps a horizontal morphism ff to ff^\dagger as a vertical morphism, and vice versa.

view this post on Zulip Nathaniel Virgo (Jul 07 2024 at 09:48):

But there's a similar construction where C\mathcal{C} is just an ordinary category and the functor CC\mathbb{C}^\top \to \mathbb{C} just maps ff to the other version of ff.

view this post on Zulip Nathaniel Virgo (Jul 07 2024 at 10:45):

(I was missing an op{}^{op} above, I've edited.)

This isn't super satisfying though - it doesn't really feel like dagger categories are an examples of these things.

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Jul 08 2024 at 06:59):

The idea of a transpositional symmetry is very intriguing! Transposition and reversal are two different symmetries though, so it feels to me such a symmetry would be different than the one for dagger cats. @Evan Patterson recently put forward a proposal for compact double categories, which are somewhat dagger-like, using the reversal symmetry.