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@Rory Lucyshyn-Wright: if you don't mind my asking here, I recently came across your paper "Enriched algebraic theories and monads for a system of arities" and I was wondering if you know how it relates to Bourke & Garner's "Monads and theories" (https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.04346). They both seem like very general frameworks, but it's not immediately clear to me how much overlap there is. Thank you!
Theorem 7.8, and its suggestive relationship to Kleisli bicategories, seems particularly evocative to me, but I haven't had a chance to read the paper in depth yet.
I'm surprised I haven't come across this paper sooner; it looks fascinating.
I'm assuming you're the varkor that answered my question on MO. Would you like to go through the paper together? :-) I'm looking forward to study it in depth, and I work better in good company.
Sounds interesting... I also wanted to study these papers.
I'd certainly be interested in studying the paper; however, I won't be able to start immediately, as I currently have a talk to prepare :)
I'd also like to study the paper. I'v recently thought I could use it, but I need to study it more.
I'd also like to study these papers, if there's a group forming - they seem interesting but I've never managed to set aside the time to go through them properly
I really should look into this paper too, in particular I'm wondering what's the connection with Monads with arities and their associated theories by Melliès, Weber and Berger
As far as I understood, Bourke-Garner's "Monads and theories" and Lucyshyn-Wright's "Enriched algebraic theories" generalise the classical Lawvere-style definition of algebraic theory in two different directions and at different degrees of abstraction.
Both starts with an "arity", i.e. a dense subcategory of a V-category , with a functor . Just one caveat: [LW] never considers other cases than .
[BG] defines an adjunction between monads on and "pretheories", i.e. identity on objects functors with domain . This adjunction restricts to an equivalence between "theories", and "nervous monads", i.e. monads on "whose arity is " in the sense of Mellies-Weber-Berger.
Theories are pretheories for which all representable functors are "models", in a sense that mimicks Power's treatment of enriched algebraic theories, and Lawvere classical treatment; the condition of being a model for a theory is stated in terms of a strict -enriched pullback, namely
and a pretheory is a theory if and only if the Yoneda embedding of factors through .
Theories and monads are equivalent simply because they can be characterised as fixed points of the above adjunction . Thus, the result is as sharp as it can be, there are no other sensible notions of theory defined through the given arity and left outside this characterisation.
[LW] instead concentrates on the equivalence between algebraic theories and promonads on the domain of the arity; the whole paper builds on the notion of "eleutheric" arity, i.e. an arity that exhibits as the free cocompletion of under weighted colimits of the form . In the terminology of Bourke-Garner, a weight of the form is called a "-nerve", so let's call weighted colimits of the form ... -phrenic, mostly for lack of a better name.
Now there is an equivalence between
It is evident that the two approaches meet in the middle; in familiar cases monads that preserve colimits by -phrenic weights are monads with arity, and in the classical case of finitary monads one gets Lawvere theories back as cartesian promonads over cartesian categories, i.e. identity on objects .
But there is more in this story! And that's why I would like to go deeper in this study.
Lucyshyn-Wright proves the following result:
Suppose that is cocomplete, and let be a small -category. Then we have an isomorphism
between the category of monads on in and the coslice category under in . Given an object of the given coslice category, the associated -profunctor is .
Here, are identity-on-objects functors out of categories with the same objects as , and the coslice just keep the domain fixed.
The meat of this construction is that If you start imposing conditions on the idonob functors , e.g. preserving limits, a monoidal structure, or else, what you get on the other side of the correspondence is less promonads, more structured the more the requests on become structured.
For example, the following conditions are equivalent, if is the "free monoid" 2-monad and its lifting to profunctors, and is a profunctor between -algebras.
(I phrased the statement in order for it to hold for every 2-monad on Cat that has a distributive law with the presheaf construction, i.e. a lifting to the Kleisli bicategory of ).
Unwinding these definitions, you see that a strong monoidal functor between presheaf categories , when these are endowed with certain monoidal structures , induces a profunctor between the (Cauchy completion of) the domains of said presheaf categories, and such profunctor is a "promonoidal profunctor", i.e. it preserves, in a suitable sense, the promonoidal structures induced on by restricting to representables in the well-known way.
Of course, this construction respects representable promonoidal structures: if the promonoidal structure is induced by Day convolution from genuine monoidal structures, the profunctor is strong monoidal if and only if its restriction to representable is monoidal.
The whole point of this story is that an algebraic theory is usually either a syntax, or a semantics, or a monoid object. For the classical case of Lawvere theories there are equivalences between
Thanks for writing this up! I've been reading through some of Monads and Theories. The distinction between pretheory and theory is somewhat mysterious to me; though I see in Example 8 they give an explanation about "noncanonicity of presentation". How do you think about the this definition of theory?
It is evident that the two approaches meet in the middle; in familiar cases monads that preserve colimits by -phrenic weights are monads with arity.
Can you elaborate on this? Are you saying that a -theory of LW is usually equivalent to a "nervous monad" of BG?
The example with Day convolution is very interesting. @Nathanael Arkor @vikraman @Younesse Kaddar and I have been talking about generalizing Day convolution from free moncat to other pseudomonads, though that's a conversation for another time.
In a similar vein, could you elaborate on #3 in your list? That's one that I'm not yet familiar with.
Thanks for this, @fosco! I'll need to spend a little time digesting. There are many suggestive relationships here and building up a complete picture will take some thought (probably a lot).
Just to chime in, I've found that the eleutheric systems of arities approach works quite well in practice. It's relatively easy to show that most systems of arities you can think of are eleutheric, and if your enriching category is locally presentable it's not too tough to generate an enriched sketch.
I would be glad to start brainstorming with some/all of you
Christian Williams said:
The example with Day convolution is very interesting. Nathanael Arkor vikraman Younesse Kaddar and I have been talking about generalizing Day convolution from free moncat to other pseudomonads, though that's a conversation for another time.
Would this be about the interaction of Yoneda structures (or more generally an interaction with the hom-functor for a suitably nice ) and pseudo-algebras of a pseudomonad?
Something like establishing distributive laws for KZ doctrines over an appropriate class of pseudomonads (for some definition of "appropriate"), which would correspond to lifting the KZ doctrines to the 2-categories of pseudoalgebras.
Nathanael Arkor said:
Something like establishing distributive laws for KZ doctrines over an appropriate class of pseudomonads (for some definition of "appropriate"), which would correspond to lifting the KZ doctrines to the 2-categories of pseudoalgebras.
Is this in the same vein as Charles Walker's work on KZ doctrines and pseudomonads (Marmolejo and Wood also did some work in this area)? I would be interested in seeing particular examples of these pseudomonads induced by a enriched Lawvere theories.
Edit: Walkers's paper https://arxiv.org/abs/1706.09575, there's also a reference to Marmolejo and Wood's work in there.
Yes, the aim is essentially to give a wider range of examples (extending Example 4.3, for instance), to which Walker's results, or Fiore–Gambino–Hyland–Winskel's, could be applied.