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Stream: theory: category theory

Topic: a lemma about reindexing monoidal presheaves


view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Mar 28 2025 at 15:59):

Does anybody know if this is known already?

Let V\cal V be a cocomplete monoidal category, let A\cal A and B\cal B be monoidal categories. Suppose FFF^* \dashv F_* is a doctrinal adjunction in MonCatlax\bf MonCat_{lax}, so that FF^* is strong and FF_* is lax. Then the induced inverse image functor VF:VBVA{\cal V}^{F_*}:\cal V^B \to \cal V^A is lax monoidal.

In fact I believe one can also give V\cal V a colax structure, though I don't know what the compatibility between the two turns out to be (I'd be very surprised if they are inverse to each other).

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Mar 28 2025 at 16:01):

I can show there exists a laxator by end-fu, and in the posetal case I'm actually interested in that's enough (since it's automatically coherent). I was wondering if it holds more generally though, and how coherence would be proven in that case.

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (Mar 28 2025 at 17:28):

Since FF_* is lax monoidal, it is a functor between multicategories, hence VFV^{F_*} is the corresponding functor of multicategories induced by the universal property of the exponential, so that it is also lax monoidal.

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (Mar 28 2025 at 17:30):

For the same reason, VFV^{F^*} is lax monoidal, and VFVFV^{F_*} \dashv V^{F^*}, so VFV^{F_*} is furthermore pseudo monoidal by doctrinal adjunction.

view this post on Zulip Kevin Carlson (Mar 28 2025 at 17:31):

Using that representable multicategories are exponentiable?

view this post on Zulip Nathanael Arkor (Mar 28 2025 at 19:51):

Yes, making use of Pisani's work on exponentiable multicategories.

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Mar 30 2025 at 09:55):

What a sleek argument! Thank you very much. Also good observation that strong monoidality follows by doctrinal adjunction.

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Mar 30 2025 at 15:59):

(Are you saying "sleek" as a deliberate variant of "slick"? I kind of like it. People always talk about slick arguments, and I've never heard of a sleek argument. Some non-native speakers pronounce "slick" as "sleek". But an argument can, in fact, seem sleek.)

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Apr 02 2025 at 09:26):

well I've never realized they are two different words until now lol so no, very much not deliberate

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Apr 02 2025 at 09:26):

btw sleek sounds sleeker to me than slick :P

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Apr 02 2025 at 15:39):

They mean different things: a cat can be sleek, an oil spill is slick. Sleek things are thin and elegant, slick things are wet and slippery. People often say a salesman is slick if they have a rapid and persuasive way of talking - it's not a good thing. Nonetheless you may be the first person in the world to say a proof is "sleek"; people say a "slick proof" as a kind of compliment, though perhaps with an undertone of "efficient but perhaps not very insightful".

view this post on Zulip Matteo Capucci (he/him) (Apr 02 2025 at 16:18):

Well then I somehow used it correctly---I do think Nathanael's proof is thin and elegant!

view this post on Zulip John Baez (Apr 02 2025 at 16:44):

It's correct: it's just the first time anyone has ever said it.