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Stream: theory: category theory

Topic: Are dense functors final?


view this post on Zulip James Deikun (Nov 24 2025 at 20:18):

This seems to pass a basic smell test (for j:ACj : A \to C dense, the colimit of jj is the same as the colimit of id\mathrm{id}), but it seems it's not always true.

Let jj be the inclusion of the non-coapex objects in the walking cospan. This is dense as is easily checked (3 cases, 2 of which are the same). However, it is clearly not final, as the colimit of a restricted functor is the coproduct of the 2 non-coapicial values, and the colimit of the unrestricted functor is the value at the coapex.

view this post on Zulip fosco (Nov 25 2025 at 09:28):

The domain of jj is discrete (in case you're defining it as Δ{0}+Δ{1}Λ22\Delta^{\{0\}}+\Delta^{\{1\}} \hookrightarrow \Lambda^2_2), and a functor with discrete domain is final if and only if it's a right adjoint.

view this post on Zulip fosco (Nov 25 2025 at 09:42):

...and I think one can just do case analysis to disprove the fact that jj has a left adjoint.

view this post on Zulip fosco (Nov 25 2025 at 09:44):

(is there a quicker way than just arguing that hom(2,jy)=\hom(2,jy)=\emptyset can't be of the form hom(L2,y)\hom(L2,y), whatever value LjL\dashv j has on objects?)

view this post on Zulip Tom Hirschowitz (Nov 27 2025 at 08:58):

But in this case, the characterisation by connectedness of comma cats seems to readily apply, no? The comma a/ja/j (where aa denotes the apex) is empty, hence not connected.